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RE: DME downgrade protection - cookiesowns - 29-04-2019

Newest DME version 6MC9EEBB has Tuner protection. Needs bootmode flash back to old BTLD and ROM version and can be tuned.

The new BTLD prevents downgrade of SWFL or BTLD, and the existing patches do not work on the new BTLD it seems.


RE: DME downgrade protection - Wibbles - 29-04-2019

I suspect it won't be long before the Tuning companies get round this - after all the F series cars were supposed to be "un-crackable" when launched.


RE: DME downgrade protection - Aimanad_101 - 29-04-2019

send me all info about car i can check for u what need to be done


RE: DME downgrade protection - snf11lci - 05-05-2019

(29-04-2019, 14:28 PM)Aimanad_101 Wrote:  send me all info about car i can check for u what need to be done


Code:
CAR INFO ===================================

Model designation: M2 COMPETITION 2U71
Series / Engine type: F87 / S55
Production date: 18-09-2018
Plant integration level F020-18-07-547
Curent integration level F020-19-03-522


CMD FLASH INFO ==============================

BMW
SERIE 2
M2 3.0T F87 272KW MEVD17.2.G ENET
BOSCH BMW ENET Protocol
Ver.3.2.0.185b
++++++++++++++++++++++
Identification
++++++++++++++++++++++
BOSCH BMW ENET Protocol
++++++++++++++++++++++
ENET
ENET Cable must be present and plugged into obd car socket
Key must be on board all the time, you cannot get it out of car
Turn ignition key to ON ( Press START button, engine light must be ON )
Connecting, please wait...
ZGW IP: 169.254.35.61
Battery Voltage: 14,66 Volts
HWEL: 00051903_21_138_4
HWEL: 000019DE_11_19_2
BTLD: 00005BA6_11_19_2
SWFL: 00005BA8_19_80_1
SWFL: 00005AE1_19_80_42
CAFD: 00000B0A_0_115_2
Ecu Name: DME-MEVD17.2.G______
Ecu Processor: TRICORE
Ecu status: Programmable Counters: 2
Ver.3.2.0.185b
++++++++++++++++++++++
Write
++++++++++++++++++++++
BOSCH BMW ENET Protocol
++++++++++++++++++++++
ENET
C:\Users\ChipTuning\BMW_M2_Stage1_mod
File CRC32:0D911B93 XROM CRC32:059C5FB9
Checksum... please wait (1 to 5 minutes)
Checksum Updated
ENET Cable must be present and plugged into obd car socket
Key must be on board all the time, you cannot get it out of car
Turn ignition key to ON ( Press START button, engine light must be ON )
Connecting, please wait...
Wait...
Checking pre-requisites...
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ZGW IP: 169.254.35.61
Battery Voltage: 14,82 Volts
Wait..
HWEL: 00051903_21_138_4
HWEL: 000019DE_11_19_2
BTLD: 00005BA6_11_19_2
SWFL: 00005BA8_19_80_1
SWFL: 00005AE1_19_80_42
CAFD: 00000B0A_0_115_2
Erase at 8000FD00
Write at 80000000 Len FC00

Error: 00 00 12 F4 7F 36 72 01
Description: transferAborted

Wait..
Wait..
Wait..
Wait..
Wait..
Car is not coded
Write the file again to attempt a new recoding


Could you check and confirm that TP realy exist ?


RE: DME downgrade protection - luntik - 05-05-2019

(28-04-2019, 06:57 AM)snf11lci Wrote:  In my opinion it does not matter.  It does not have to be online.  It can also be offline ISTA standalone or ESYS, but with the same version i-level as it is in a car or newer one.  
So why it was impossible to flash with the same version via E-Sys?


RE: DME downgrade protection - snf11lci - 05-05-2019

I guess your DME was in programing state as our. I know that ISTA can fix it and can flash. Maybe ESYS can`t. ISTA Offline will be fine with new ilevel.

About tuning protection. Where do you get this information and is it real information?


RE: DME downgrade protection - Stiffmaster - 05-05-2019

Don‘t understand the problem? Why do you want to flash anything with ista?
Just take Autotuner or Flex and do it on bench

Br


RE: DME downgrade protection - snf11lci - 05-05-2019

(05-05-2019, 17:01 PM)Stiffmaster Wrote:  Don‘t understand the problem? Why do you want to flash anything with ista?
Just take Autotuner or Flex and do it on bench

Br

firstly, the removal DME in this case is not so easy. You have to :

Remove air intake plenum 
Remove charge air duct to throttle valve 
Remove intake filter housing 
Remove charge air cooler 
Remove ignition coil cover 
A lot to do. 

Secondly, tuning via OBD2 was always possible. The question is.  Is it still safe to do via OBD2 on new ilevel or Tuning Protection exist ?


RE: DME downgrade protection - Kuiyt2 - 05-05-2019

(28-04-2019, 06:57 AM)snf11lci Wrote:  In my opinion it does not matter.  It does not have to be online.  It can also be offline ISTA standalone or ESYS, but with the same version i-level as it is in a car or newer one.  

The main question is.  Is car or soft 19-3-xx really has Tuning protection ?
Does anyone know ?

It has no tuning protection. All these tuning tools and their “virtual libraries” only match a couple parts of the SWFL & BTLD and give you a file they have on file. They just don’t have the latest bootloader patched yet.


RE: DME downgrade protection - Stiffmaster - 05-05-2019

(05-05-2019, 17:27 PM)snf11lci Wrote:  
(05-05-2019, 17:01 PM)Stiffmaster Wrote:  Don‘t understand the problem? Why do you want to flash anything with ista?
Just take Autotuner or Flex and do it on bench

Br

firstly, the removal DME in this case is not so easy. You have to :

Remove air intake plenum 
Remove charge air duct to throttle valve 
Remove intake filter housing 
Remove charge air cooler 
Remove ignition coil cover 
A lot to do. 

Secondly, tuning via OBD2 was always possible. The question is.  Is it still safe to do via OBD2 on new ilevel or Tuning Protection exist ?

As far as I remember, you can see connectors as soon, you dismounted wir filter case. 
Than you can bench it wink
Not shure if I did it that was only on N55 or on M2 Comp, too. It was around 5-10 min. That‘s the time, you save on writing in bench. 

Br