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Remove CCC from ISTA-D module tree - Mrg0721 - 03-08-2017
I did a CCC to CIC retrofit on a 07 335i. All is working well except I have a little annoyance when it comes to scanning the car with ISTA-D. ISTA-D takes forever to read and it shows CCC modules in red (no communication) in the module tree as they are no longer present.
Also when ISTA-D is identifying the vehicle, the CIC unit restarts itself.
1) Anyone know if CCC can be removed from module tree so ISTA-D will not try to find them anymore?
2) Anyone know why CIC restarts when IsTa-D is identifying vehicle?
Thanks.
RE: Remove CCC from ISTA-D module tree - Loliceman - 03-08-2017
You need to change the I-level (shipment) inside Tool32 E89.prg
If you set I-level shipment to a I-level when CCC was replaced by CIC for cars with 609, or higher. ISTA will not look for CCC related modules anymore.
Try it at your own risk. I'v used it several times with no issues.
See link below for some guidance.
RE: Remove CCC from ISTA-D module tree - Mrg0721 - 04-08-2017
(03-08-2017, 06:32 AM)Loliceman Wrote: You need to change the I-level (shipment) inside Tool32 E89.prg
If you set I-level shipment to a I-level when CCC was replaced by CIC for cars with 609, or higher. ISTA will not look for CCC related modules anymore.
Try it at your own risk. I'v used it several times with no issues.
See link below for some guidance.
Loliceman I appreciate the guidance to that link. However with my limited experience with tool32, those instructions seem too broad for me. Not sure exactly how to go about changing the factory i-level. Would you be able to provide a step by step?
RE: Remove CCC from ISTA-D module tree - Stivikivi - 04-08-2017
Just change VO.
$609 is the same, before 10/2008 CCC after CIC.
Just add 6VA to VO and write_FA in CAS / NFRM.
RE: Remove CCC from ISTA-D module tree - ATC - 04-08-2017
(04-08-2017, 13:05 PM)Stivikivi Wrote: Just change VO.
$609 is the same, before 10/2008 CCC after CIC.
Just add 6VA to VO and write_FA in CAS / NFRM.
Exactly, In VO option
SA609 only = CCC
SA609 + SA6VA = CIC
Mrg0721, Do what the "Stivikivi" comments and the problem will be worked out.
If you want to leave the CIC fine and code according to your car, you must also make a general codification of the car.
IMPORTANT.
Do not forget to change the date of production in the VO before coding, you must put a date of production in which option 6VA was already available (from 2008 onwards)
Once the general encoding is finished, put the original date back into the VO and write it to the CAS and NFRM.
BR
ATC
RE: Remove CCC from ISTA-D module tree - Mrg0721 - 05-08-2017
(04-08-2017, 13:05 PM)Stivikivi Wrote: Just change VO.
$609 is the same, before 10/2008 CCC after CIC.
Just add 6VA to VO and write_FA in CAS / NFRM.
(04-08-2017, 19:04 PM)ATC Wrote:(04-08-2017, 13:05 PM)Stivikivi Wrote: Just change VO.
$609 is the same, before 10/2008 CCC after CIC.
Just add 6VA to VO and write_FA in CAS / NFRM.
Exactly, In VO option
SA609 only = CCC
SA609 + SA6VA = CIC
Mrg0721, Do what the "Stivikivi" comments and the problem will be worked out.
If you want to leave the CIC fine and code according to your car, you must also make a general codification of the car.
IMPORTANT.
Do not forget to change the date of production in the VO before coding, you must put a date of production in which option 6VA was already available (from 2008 onwards)
Once the general encoding is finished, put the original date back into the VO and write it to the CAS and NFRM.
BR
ATC
Thank you for both of your replies but coding was the first thing I did after install, so it is already coded as you have mentioned. I can communicate with CIC, I just want to remove CCC from the module tree in ISTA so the program does not try to search for it, unfortunately that is proving harder than I thought.
RE: Remove CCC from ISTA-D module tree - ATC - 06-08-2017
(05-08-2017, 14:20 PM)Mrg0721 Wrote:(04-08-2017, 13:05 PM)Stivikivi Wrote: Just change VO.
$609 is the same, before 10/2008 CCC after CIC.
Just add 6VA to VO and write_FA in CAS / NFRM.
(04-08-2017, 19:04 PM)ATC Wrote:(04-08-2017, 13:05 PM)Stivikivi Wrote: Just change VO.
$609 is the same, before 10/2008 CCC after CIC.
Just add 6VA to VO and write_FA in CAS / NFRM.
Exactly, In VO option
SA609 only = CCC
SA609 + SA6VA = CIC
Mrg0721, Do what the "Stivikivi" comments and the problem will be worked out.
If you want to leave the CIC fine and code according to your car, you must also make a general codification of the car.
IMPORTANT.
Do not forget to change the date of production in the VO before coding, you must put a date of production in which option 6VA was already available (from 2008 onwards)
Once the general encoding is finished, put the original date back into the VO and write it to the CAS and NFRM.
BR
ATC
Thank you for both of your replies but coding was the first thing I did after install, so it is already coded as you have mentioned. I can communicate with CIC, I just want to remove CCC from the module tree in ISTA so the program does not try to search for it, unfortunately that is proving harder than I thought.
A question.
In the car VO, you now have the options SA609 and SA6VA?
When you did a general encoding (with CIC connected) there were these two options on the VO and the production date changed?
If so, something strange happened during coding, because the CCC should no longer appear and only the CIC should appear.
I would try to do the general car coding again with the CIC installed, the modified VO with the correct production date and the two options added in the VO (SA609 + SA6VA). When finished, re-set the correct production date, write it down in the modules CAS / NFRM and DO NOT do a general encoding, NOLY write the option in VO.
This should solve your problem.
a greeting
ATC
RE: Remove CCC from ISTA-D module tree - BaggieMatt - 06-08-2017
Does anyone know what 6VA actually does?
I retrofitted a CIC 3 years ago and never added 6VA to the VO and I have had no issues with it. When I checked the VO of the donor vehicle via the VIN there is no 6VA there either and that must have been how it came out of the factory.
RE: Remove CCC from ISTA-D module tree - inotherwords - 06-08-2017
You don't need 6VA if your i-level is newer than the level when CIC was introduced in E9x series.
RE: Remove CCC from ISTA-D module tree - Silva1337 - 06-08-2017
Remove voice control and ccc , will gone