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ISTA-P in virtual environment
16-06-2016, 09:27 AM,
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XZBMW  ISTA-P in virtual environment
Hello there,

I was trying to create a BMW Virtual System similar to the one EuroCSL
is offering in his own thread http://cartechnology.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=15343
But in german language, as this suits me better. It went pretty good for
BMW Standard Tools(NCSEXPERT, WinKFP, INPA... etc.) and ISTA-D.
But when I tried to install ISTA-P I ran into a problem. The setup is aborting.
Then I remembered from past experiences that ISTA-P will not install in a
virtual environment. But somehow it must be possible from what I can see
from EuroCSLs BMW Virtual System. So can please give me somebody a little
hint how I can install ISTA-P in a VM? You would make me so glad.

P.S.: Yes I'm aware that I should never program a Car from a VM.

greetings
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16-06-2016, 15:14 PM,
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RE: ISTA-P in virtual environment
(16-06-2016, 09:27 AM)RaimundB Wrote:  Hello there,

I was trying to create a BMW Virtual System similar to the one EuroCSL
is offering in his own thread http://cartechnology.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=15343
But in german language, as this suits me better. It went pretty good for
BMW Standard Tools(NCSEXPERT, WinKFP, INPA... etc.) and ISTA-D.
But when I tried to install ISTA-P I ran into a problem. The setup is aborting.
Then I remembered from past experiences that ISTA-P will not install in a
virtual environment. But somehow it must be possible from what I can see
from EuroCSLs BMW Virtual System. So can please give me somebody a little
hint how I can install ISTA-P in a VM? You would make me so glad.

P.S.: Yes I'm aware that I should never program a Car from a VM.

greetings

can you explain how is it aborting? Is it rolling back? It should provide a log in %ProgramData%

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16-06-2016, 17:39 PM,
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RE: ISTA-P in virtual environment
If you already have a normal working setup, try using VMware Converter to automatically perform physical to virtual migration.

It is targeted at server administrators so we should be able to consider it a decent, reliable product.

However our automotive applications often have their own interesting implementations which could possibly cause problems that VMware would not support, even if you have a fully paid license.

Just to finish off, we all know ISTA-P is for reprogramming control modules, and even at dealerships, control modules occaisionally fail after programming. I would not want to introduce any extra complications (like virtualisation) just in case these cause problems. Just for example I used to run a virtualised PBX for my personal use.

I found sometimes calls would intermittently stutter but luckily I could easily reproduce this problem without causing any damage so I could figure out how to resolve the issue by optimising VMware settings. Making a few test phone calls with occasional stutter is one thing, but I wouldn't dream about killing many control modules to let me optimise my VMware settings.
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16-06-2016, 18:14 PM,
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RE: ISTA-P in virtual environment
EuroCSLs ISTA-P was probably installed elsewhere first and than just copied inside.
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17-06-2016, 05:14 AM,
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RE: ISTA-P in virtual environment
(16-06-2016, 18:14 PM)BusyBox Wrote:  EuroCSLs ISTA-P was probably installed elsewhere first and than just copied inside.

You're actually wrong there buddy, I built everything from scratch on my VM, from Windows 7 install to updates and all the prerequisites to run these softwares, nothing has been converted or migrated to the virtualization through host PC. every piece of software is fresh installs, unless you count drag and dropping the setups as migration then yeah. I can be lazy but I'm usually not

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17-06-2016, 06:48 AM,
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RE: ISTA-P in virtual environment
(16-06-2016, 15:14 PM)EuroCSL Wrote:  can you explain how is it aborting? Is it rolling back? It should provide a log in %ProgramData%

The installation aborts with this error:
"The hardware requirements are not fulfilled by this machine"
See full log below.

VM Config:
Windows 7(64-bit)
RAM: 8G
Processors: 4
Video-RAM: 64MB
Hard Disk: 350G
Virtualbox Guest Additions installed

17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Starting CustomAction 'CheckHardwareRequirements'...
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Environment for this run:
Commandline: rundll32.exe "C:\Windows\Installer\MSI3566.tmp",zzzzInvokeManagedCustomActionOutOfProc SfxCA_800125 6004 BMW.ISPI.TRIC.ISTAP.Installer.CustomActions!BMW.ISPI.TRIC.ISTAP.Installer.CustomActions.CustomActionStarter.CheckHardwareRequirements
Current directory: C:\Windows\Installer\MSI3566.tmp-
System directory: C:\Windows\system32
OSVersion: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
Interactive Mode? : True
CLR Version: 2.0.50727.8646
Machine name: ISTA
Logical drives: C:\, D:\, E:\, Z:\
Manufacturer: innotek GmbH
Model: VirtualBox
SystemType: x64-based PC

17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Starting CustomAction 'CheckHardwareRequirements'. Disabled wiping of install target folder on rollback
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Starting CheckHwRequirements
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: IsIstapInstalled on folder C:\ProgramData\BMW\ISPI\data\TRIC\ISTA-P\ : False
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Directory C:\ProgramData\BMW\ISPI\data\TRIC\temp\IstapInstallFiles_3.58.0.500\data does not exist and is marked as empty.
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: ISTA/P archive detected to be not extracted before starting installation
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Current min hdd value 181580
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: ISTAP final min HDD requirement 181580
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: HardwareUtilities - Free space on C:\ 248582 MB of a total size of 358297 MB
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: HardwareUtilities: size of hdd space exceeds requirements: 248582 > 181580
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: CommandCheckHardwareRequirements.DoExecute() NumberOfLogicalProcessors : 4, MaxClockSpeed : 3500, PhysicalMemorySize : 0, SumOfAllLocalDiskDrivesSize : 248582
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Requirements message string read from property Die Installationsvoraussetzungen für ISTA/P werden nicht erfüllt. Eine Installation ist nicht möglich (siehe ISPI Next Planungshandbuch).
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Complete message string read from property Die Installationsvoraussetzungen für ISTA/P werden nicht erfüllt. Eine Installation ist nicht möglich (siehe ISPI Next Planungshandbuch).
17.06.2016-08:33 WARN: The hardware requirements are not fulfilled by this machine.
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17-06-2016, 07:18 AM,
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RE: ISTA-P in virtual environment
PhysicalMemorySize : 0 - looks like virtual environment is giving false information about RAM amount.

EuroCSL - everything from scratch makes you absolutely not lazy man wink
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17-06-2016, 07:23 AM, (This post was last modified: 17-06-2016, 07:52 AM by EuroCSL.)
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ISTA-P in virtual environment
Stupid tapatalk

(17-06-2016, 06:48 AM)RaimundB Wrote:  
(16-06-2016, 15:14 PM)EuroCSL Wrote:  can you explain how is it aborting? Is it rolling back? It should provide a log in %ProgramData%

The installation aborts with this error:
"The hardware requirements are not fulfilled by this machine"
See full log below.

VM Config:
Windows 7(64-bit)
RAM: 8G
Processors: 4
Video-RAM: 64MB
Hard Disk: 350G
Virtualbox Guest Additions installed

17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Starting CustomAction 'CheckHardwareRequirements'...
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Environment for this run:
Commandline: rundll32.exe "C:\Windows\Installer\MSI3566.tmp",zzzzInvokeManagedCustomActionOutOfProc SfxCA_800125 6004 BMW.ISPI.TRIC.ISTAP.Installer.CustomActions!BMW.ISPI.TRIC.ISTAP.Installer.CustomActions.CustomActionStarter.CheckHardwareRequirements
Current directory: C:\Windows\Installer\MSI3566.tmp-
System directory: C:\Windows\system32
OSVersion: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
Interactive Mode? : True
CLR Version: 2.0.50727.8646
Machine name: ISTA
Logical drives: C:\, D:\, E:\, Z:\
Manufacturer: innotek GmbH
Model: VirtualBox
SystemType: x64-based PC

17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Starting CustomAction 'CheckHardwareRequirements'. Disabled wiping of install target folder on rollback
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Starting CheckHwRequirements
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: IsIstapInstalled on folder C:\ProgramData\BMW\ISPI\data\TRIC\ISTA-P\ : False
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Directory C:\ProgramData\BMW\ISPI\data\TRIC\temp\IstapInstallFiles_3.58.0.500\data does not exist and is marked as empty.
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: ISTA/P archive detected to be not extracted before starting installation
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Current min hdd value 181580
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: ISTAP final min HDD requirement 181580
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: HardwareUtilities - Free space on C:\ 248582 MB of a total size of 358297 MB
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: HardwareUtilities: size of hdd space exceeds requirements: 248582 > 181580
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: CommandCheckHardwareRequirements.DoExecute() NumberOfLogicalProcessors : 4, MaxClockSpeed : 3500, PhysicalMemorySize : 0, SumOfAllLocalDiskDrivesSize : 248582
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Requirements message string read from property Die Installationsvoraussetzungen für ISTA/P werden nicht erfüllt. Eine Installation ist nicht möglich (siehe ISPI Next Planungshandbuch).
17.06.2016-08:33 INFO: Complete message string read from property Die Installationsvoraussetzungen für ISTA/P werden nicht erfüllt. Eine Installation ist nicht möglich (siehe ISPI Next Planungshandbuch).
17.06.2016-08:33 WARN: The hardware requirements are not fulfilled by this machine.


I PM'ed you the download and password already I had the same issue but it was with HDD not memory I'm on my phone at the moment and lazy to get to the laptop since it's 1am tinker around with it, it's very user friendly simple as open MSI and remove the action group which contains the checks

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18-06-2016, 08:09 AM,
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RE: ISTA-P in virtual environment
(17-06-2016, 07:23 AM)EuroCSL Wrote:  Stupid tapatalk

I PM'ed you the download and password already I had the same issue but it was with HDD not memory I'm on my phone at the moment and lazy to get to the laptop since it's 1am tinker around with it, it's very user friendly simple as open MSI and remove the action group which contains the checks

Thank you very much for that. The setup is now starting for
BMW_ISPI_ISTA-P_SYS_3.58.0.500.msi. Will check later if the installation went fine.

But a discovered a new problem. As BMW_ISPI_ISTA-P_SYS_3.59.0.600.exe was
released recently they changed from msi to exe setup. And when I start
BMW_ISPI_ISTA-P_SYS_3.59.0.600.exe the setup aborts complaining about that
there are not at least 3GB of memory available.
Sadly I can't open the exe file with the editor to disable the Hardwarecheck.

But it's clear now that it is a problem with the memory detection inside the VM.

I will look further into that.

greetings
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