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A difficult problem - Flash R56 Champ2 CiC with WinKFP - what is address 92 and 9B?
14-05-2019, 07:31 AM,
Post: #51
RE: A difficult problem - Flash R56 Champ2 CiC with WinKFP - what is address 92 and 9B?
(13-05-2019, 16:29 PM)tigre Wrote:  hi, im still fix the CHAMP2, anyone can help me with expert mode?

i need to know the correct files for expert mode like the exemple for all units, 62, 63, A0 and 9B:

63:

-Configure ICOM for MOST_ASYNC_ab625
-Open WinKFP
-Select expert mode
-PABD = 08010408CI63F1.ipo (be carefully, do not choose CM63)
-P-SGBD = 33CI63F1_10.prg (be carefully, do not choose CM63)
-ECU-adress = 63
-Data = A9257174
-Program = 9257170
-NAAB = H020270_0202J5

i find some but dont know how where the correct NAAB file

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Open the .OPA file, you will see the correct NAAB file indicated in it.
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14-05-2019, 10:40 AM,
Post: #52
RE: A difficult problem - Flash R56 Champ2 CiC with WinKFP - what is address 92 and 9B?
(14-05-2019, 07:31 AM)willisodhiambo Wrote:  Open the .OPA file, you will see the correct NAAB file indicated in it.

@willisodhiambo A littlee of topic.. 
Iḿ trying to replace a faulty champ2 (MINI R56). Bought a new unit, came with no VIN, no FSC's. According to seller, "Brand new, never used unit".
Question: do you know if i can write VIN without flashing it? tool32, fstool?



Thanks
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14-05-2019, 16:45 PM,
Post: #53
RE: A difficult problem - Flash R56 Champ2 CiC with WinKFP - what is address 92 and 9B?
(14-05-2019, 10:40 AM)claw Wrote:  
(14-05-2019, 07:31 AM)willisodhiambo Wrote:  Open the .OPA file, you will see the correct NAAB file indicated in it.

@willisodhiambo A littlee of topic.. 
Iḿ trying to replace a faulty champ2 (MINI R56). Bought a new unit, came with no VIN, no FSC's. According to seller, "Brand new, never used unit".
Question: do you know if i can write VIN without flashing it? tool32, fstool?



Thanks

You just need to code and import the fsc... Done.
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14-05-2019, 16:56 PM,
Post: #54
RE: A difficult problem - Flash R56 Champ2 CiC with WinKFP - what is address 92 and 9B?
(14-05-2019, 16:45 PM)ypt Wrote:  
(14-05-2019, 10:40 AM)claw Wrote:  
(14-05-2019, 07:31 AM)willisodhiambo Wrote:  Open the .OPA file, you will see the correct NAAB file indicated in it.

@willisodhiambo A littlee of topic.. 
Iḿ trying to replace a faulty champ2 (MINI R56). Bought a new unit, came with no VIN, no FSC's. According to seller, "Brand new, never used unit".
Question: do you know if i can write VIN without flashing it? tool32, fstool?



Thanks

You just need to code and import the fsc... Done.

Champ has no vin, only 0000000.
On cic units, i just write vin first, with fstool, and next import fsc's.
But with champ, i'm not sure i can do it (at least with dcan cable).

Thanks
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15-05-2019, 11:51 AM,
Post: #55
RE: A difficult problem - Flash R56 Champ2 CiC with WinKFP - what is address 92 and 9B?
Try write vin with ncsexpert, then code it to default. Tool 32 will also write the vin. You can also use ISTAP to de-install the bad one and replace with new, all automatic. Choice of method is yours
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15-05-2019, 17:29 PM,
Post: #56
RE: A difficult problem - Flash R56 Champ2 CiC with WinKFP - what is address 92 and 9B?
(15-05-2019, 11:51 AM)willisodhiambo Wrote:  Try write vin with ncsexpert, then code it to default. Tool 32 will also write the vin. You can also use ISTAP to de-install the bad one and replace with new, all automatic. Choice of method is yours

Even with d-can cable? I'll do it remotely, customer does not have icom.
I think i've tried once (other case, but also champ2) with ncsexpert and it did not changed. 

Thanks,
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15-05-2019, 21:40 PM,
Post: #57
RE: A difficult problem - Flash R56 Champ2 CiC with WinKFP - what is address 92 and 9B?
(15-05-2019, 17:29 PM)claw Wrote:  
(15-05-2019, 11:51 AM)willisodhiambo Wrote:  Try write vin with ncsexpert, then code it to default. Tool 32 will also write the vin. You can also use ISTAP to de-install the bad one and replace with new, all automatic. Choice of method is yours

Even with d-can cable? I'll do it remotely, customer does not have icom.
I think i've tried once (other case, but also champ2) with ncsexpert and it did not changed. 

Thanks,

No, never use d-can cable for programming HU. Besides it will flash for couple of ours, it's much probable that your HU will stuck in programming mode, so it's more difficult to recover it then. Always use (better if it's genuine one) ICOM A+B(MOST)

Only BMW services:

Remote coding/programming - E, F, G serie
HDD change, Carplay, Screen mirroring activation
FSC pack - CIC, NBT, NBT EVO, ENTRYNAV2, MGU, KAFAS
Remote reset 8HP ISN F serie
ELV disable for CAS3, 3+
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15-05-2019, 22:26 PM,
Post: #58
RE: A difficult problem - Flash R56 Champ2 CiC with WinKFP - what is address 92 and 9B?
(15-05-2019, 21:40 PM)Matthew53 Wrote:  
(15-05-2019, 17:29 PM)claw Wrote:  
(15-05-2019, 11:51 AM)willisodhiambo Wrote:  Try write vin with ncsexpert, then code it to default. Tool 32 will also write the vin. You can also use ISTAP to de-install the bad one and replace with new, all automatic. Choice of method is yours

Even with d-can cable? I'll do it remotely, customer does not have icom.
I think i've tried once (other case, but also champ2) with ncsexpert and it did not changed. 

Thanks,

No, never use d-can cable for programming HU. Besides it will flash for couple of ours, it's much probable that your HU will stuck in programming mode, so it's more difficult to recover it then. Always use (better if it's genuine one) ICOM A+B(MOST)
I'm not going to use dcan to flash. 
I just need to change Vin WITHOUT use winkfp.
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15-05-2019, 22:32 PM, (This post was last modified: 15-05-2019, 22:32 PM by Matthew53.)
Post: #59
RE: A difficult problem - Flash R56 Champ2 CiC with WinKFP - what is address 92 and 9B?
(15-05-2019, 22:26 PM)claw Wrote:  
(15-05-2019, 21:40 PM)Matthew53 Wrote:  
(15-05-2019, 17:29 PM)claw Wrote:  
(15-05-2019, 11:51 AM)willisodhiambo Wrote:  Try write vin with ncsexpert, then code it to default. Tool 32 will also write the vin. You can also use ISTAP to de-install the bad one and replace with new, all automatic. Choice of method is yours

Even with d-can cable? I'll do it remotely, customer does not have icom.
I think i've tried once (other case, but also champ2) with ncsexpert and it did not changed. 

Thanks,

No, never use d-can cable for programming HU. Besides it will flash for couple of ours, it's much probable that your HU will stuck in programming mode, so it's more difficult to recover it then. Always use (better if it's genuine one) ICOM A+B(MOST)
I'm not going to use dcan to flash. 
I just need to change Vin WITHOUT use winkfp.

If you're only changing VIN, so yes, but "willisodhiambo" mention also about ISTA-P and I thought that you are asking if you can do it with ISTA-P.

Only BMW services:

Remote coding/programming - E, F, G serie
HDD change, Carplay, Screen mirroring activation
FSC pack - CIC, NBT, NBT EVO, ENTRYNAV2, MGU, KAFAS
Remote reset 8HP ISN F serie
ELV disable for CAS3, 3+
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16-05-2019, 09:58 AM,
Post: #60
RE: A difficult problem - Flash R56 Champ2 CiC with WinKFP - what is address 92 and 9B?
(15-05-2019, 22:32 PM)Matthew53 Wrote:  
(15-05-2019, 22:26 PM)claw Wrote:  
(15-05-2019, 21:40 PM)Matthew53 Wrote:  
(15-05-2019, 17:29 PM)claw Wrote:  
(15-05-2019, 11:51 AM)willisodhiambo Wrote:  Try write vin with ncsexpert, then code it to default. Tool 32 will also write the vin. You can also use ISTAP to de-install the bad one and replace with new, all automatic. Choice of method is yours

Even with d-can cable? I'll do it remotely, customer does not have icom.
I think i've tried once (other case, but also champ2) with ncsexpert and it did not changed. 

Thanks,

No, never use d-can cable for programming HU. Besides it will flash for couple of ours, it's much probable that your HU will stuck in programming mode, so it's more difficult to recover it then. Always use (better if it's genuine one) ICOM A+B(MOST)
I'm not going to use dcan to flash. 
I just need to change Vin WITHOUT use winkfp.

If you're only changing VIN, so yes, but "willisodhiambo" mention also about ISTA-P and I thought that you are asking if you can do it with ISTA-P.

Yes, i understood your point.  wink

Thanks
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