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RE: Good or Bad Vas5054A - apoelistas - 27-06-2017

If anyone can supply a 10ns memory type with VAS5054 full chip and with AMB2300, and authentic OKi chip, please inform this forum. We are interested for a proper hardware, which will be able to work with odis engineering 6.7.5 flash support and last long.

Until then I have my reserves. Control Units are expensive, failing to update will cause hardware failure. I had a bad experience with VCX nano WiFi (with latest firmware) and odis engineering and my instrument cluster. Since I have updated all my hardware at the dealer with SVM, I will not consider purchasing one until such hardware becomes available.
There is no reason to get vas5054a only for diagnosis purposes and coding (i.e. DTCs). There are hardware that can do this better, like VCDs.


RE: Good or Bad Vas5054A - cawadany - 27-06-2017

(27-06-2017, 17:05 PM)apoelistas Wrote:  If anyone can supply a 10ns memory type with VAS5054 full chip and with AMB2300, and authentic OKi chip, please inform this forum. We are interested for a proper hardware, which will be able to work with odis engineering 6.7.5 flash support and last long.

Until then I have my reserves. Control Units are expensive, failing to update will cause hardware failure. I had a bad experience with VCX nano WiFi (with latest firmware) and odis engineering and my instrument cluster. Since I have updated all my hardware at the dealer with SVM, I will not consider purchasing one until such hardware becomes available.
There is no reason to get vas5054a only for diagnosis purposes and coding (i.e. DTCs). There are hardware that can do this better, like VCDs.
For units updates you can consider vag can pro


RE: Good or Bad Vas5054A - Marcos - 27-06-2017

(27-06-2017, 12:00 PM)obd2cartool Wrote:  From the overall analysis, CPU running speed is very important, RAM speed too fast, will also cause energy waste ,right?

RAM speed is not so critical since the CPU will adapt the data rate to match his speed (of course RAM chips should be compatible on other specs).
The faster the RAM speed is, the better VCI response (same as in computers).
But in our case, RAM voltage is indeed critical.
Powering a 3.3V RAM chip with 5V will not last to long, also RAM communication levels with processor will be affected and data can get corrupted during transfers.
Faster RAM chips will not cause energy waste, actually they will improve this because the system will not need to HALT very often to wait for new data to be transferred (it will finish the job faster).


RE: Good or Bad Vas5054A - apoelistas - 27-06-2017

(27-06-2017, 17:54 PM)cawadany Wrote:  For units updates you can consider vag can pro

Thanks.
I want to be able to flash off line too with odis engineering, using the flashdaten disc and odis service (They had 4.0.0 on chinese server) I think VAG can pro is online too, same as audi odis service. Is there a youtube video on this?? I would like to see how flash works. Germans mostly use VCP(vag can pro) and it is half the price of original VAS5054a. This could be the best alternative.

Vas5054a is my first option. It is very fast and can unbrick control units offline but hardware is unreliable.

Note:
Also I had a reply from the VCX nano seller. He told me that VCX nano can flash online from their VX cloud server service (they have china and USA server, not european), which I have not tested, using odis 3.0.3. This would be a nice to see in a youtube tutorial. I dont have a clue how it works, but I think they have also a subscription which I will try to test, though I will not flash, unless control unit is cheap to replace. Odis engineering is not compatible only odis-S
All information on the internet that VCX nano works and can flash with odis engineering is wrong. All tests failed and they also say try at your own risk.

I will try to post a photo of VCX nano server when I reinstall odis service.

Update
USA cloud server is under maintenance. So it is not working. However using Chinese server they have Odis 4.0.0 (not 3.0.3), everything is Chinese so I cannot understand anything else. So unreliable service.


RE: Good or Bad Vas5054A - retrobmwtr - 28-06-2017

Hi guys ı dont want to start a new topic could u reply me please
ı want to buy thiis for coding and vw navi retrofits
do you suggest?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-VAS-5054A-Plus-EOBD-OBD2-Diagnostic-Tool-ODIS-3-0-3-Postsetup-9-3-10-OKI-/272737567959


RE: Good or Bad Vas5054A - Marcos - 28-06-2017

(28-06-2017, 19:37 PM)retrobmwtr Wrote:  Hi guys ı dont want to start a new topic could u reply me please
ı want to buy thiis for coding and vw navi retrofits
do you suggest?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-VAS-5054A-Plus-EOBD-OBD2-Diagnostic-Tool-ODIS-3-0-3-Postsetup-9-3-10-OKI-/272737567959

Same as many others out there, very expensive.


RE: Good or Bad Vas5054A - apoelistas - 28-06-2017

Oki is fake I believe. Does not have the 2 circles. Also memory UF55 which means unstable since it is 3.3V but opearates at 5V. So the price of this product does not reflect its low quality.


RE: Good or Bad Vas5054A - champagnecharly - 01-07-2017

(28-06-2017, 19:37 PM)retrobmwtr Wrote:  Hi guys ı dont want to start a new topic could u reply me please
ı want to buy thiis for coding and vw navi retrofits
do you suggest?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-VAS-5054A-Plus-EOBD-OBD2-Diagnostic-Tool-ODIS-3-0-3-Postsetup-9-3-10-OKI-/272737567959

If I'm right it is not fake oki but the wrong oki. If you look at the pins carefully you will see one on left is not right.

Beware of photos sent by suppliers. I had one supplier send me a photo and when i looked at data it was made in 2014 with iphoine4s I complemented him on the quality and he told me he had just taken it specially for me with a iphone 7! Caught the sly toad out!! And hes far from being the only one. I recieved the same photo from 5 other suppliers too..

However. I may have found a supplier that i can work with.

I'd appreciate any comments on the following board.

I am aware of some things such as
a) lack of amb2300
b) 10ns 5v Ram (does have 5v 55ns though)

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Do note that one pic is of returned faulty board where pin of oki chip had been cut for testing. Serial ending 2j

Oki with serial ending 6j was of brand new board. Both "seem" to be ORI OKI chips of correct version.

Please any feedback appreciated.


RE: Good or Bad Vas5054A - Enabled - 01-07-2017

If I were to find some K6R4016C1D chips... is it just a matter of soldering on the VAS5054a?

Any other flashing needed?


RE: Good or Bad Vas5054A - champagnecharly - 01-07-2017

With regards the mem.. what is the diff between..

T : 44-TSOP2
U: 44-TSOP2(LF)

(01-07-2017, 12:53 PM)Enabled Wrote:  If I were to find some K6R4016C1D chips... is it just a matter of soldering on the VAS5054a?

Any other flashing needed?

Soldering onto what/ which board? A board you have. From my newb perspective.. Id say for mem only change no.
However for AMb2300 the correct flash would need to be already on that. But i may stand corrected.