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Opel Astra G wont program key - Black Alien - 10-06-2019

Hello..

I have Opel Astra G 2001. the owner lost transponder and I went there with FVDI 2018 to get it programmed. I had to read and get security code for key programming to be success..it gave me 0334. when i entered, it said wrong security code and i tried to read again it gave me the same code..when i tried to program a key again it read: 

               "operation failed. Requested time delay not expired" 

it gave me 1:20:00 of wait

something crossed my mind: what if i change vin so that i get a new security code? i changed it from W0L0TGF48X8064423 to W0L0TGF48X8064424

i then go read security code but then it read:

  "SECURITY CODE NOT PROGRAMMED"

HELP sweating

maybe this information from log can help finding a solution: under

--- electronic control unit identification ---

VIN:                                    W0L0TGF48X8064424
Part Number:                        09355929 DK
Identifier:                            0981
Production Date:                   P1299A03
Software Version Number:       3
ECU Hardware Number:           DEL  0109355289
ECU Software Number:           DBKL
Type Approval Number:          D98005
Repair Shop Code:              S001003893
Programming Date:              20030909
Engine Type:                   X16XEL [Multec S]


and for immobilizer i have this:

--- electronic control unit identification ---

VIN:                                     54508SF35Y2240179
Part Number:                         24418927 ED
Mechanical Key Number:         D1412
Identifier:                             0101
Production Date:                     000406
ECU Hardware Number:           18327
ECU Software Number:           18327

dtc faut:

B3060 - (0) Unknown Transponder Key

  Status: Present



regards


RE: Opel Astra G wont program key - volavka - 10-06-2019

Try to read Code from Engine Control Module
Otherwise you you will need dump from immo ring for correct code

Br.V


RE: Opel Astra G wont program key - Black Alien - 10-06-2019

(10-06-2019, 23:25 PM)volavka Wrote:  Try to read Code from Engine Control Module
Otherwise you you will need dump from immo ring for correct code

Br.V

immo ring has a big ic that my UPA cannot read..i opened it up for rl56 or anything but there was no small eeprom..is it possible to read by obd? using fvdi? is there is any other option? i will try to read code from ecu as you say


RE: Opel Astra G wont program key - volavka - 11-06-2019

(10-06-2019, 23:51 PM)Black Alien Wrote:  immo ring has a big ic that my UPA cannot read..i opened it up for rl56 or anything but there was no small eeprom..is it possible to read by obd? using fvdi? is there is any other option?

The big ic is contain mmo/keys data
UPA read with no problems Just need to unsolder Mcu and put in adapter TMS370

Br. V


RE: Opel Astra G wont program key - Black Alien - 11-06-2019

(11-06-2019, 00:01 AM)volavka Wrote:  
(10-06-2019, 23:51 PM)Black Alien Wrote:  immo ring has a big ic that my UPA cannot read..i opened it up for rl56 or anything but there was no small eeprom..is it possible to read by obd? using fvdi? is there is any other option? i will try to read code from ecu as you say

The big ic is contain mmo/keys data
UPA read with no problems Just need to unsolder Mcu and put in adapter TMS370

Br. V

i will try when morning comes,,,i will try to code from ecu first


RE: Opel Astra G wont program key - fraserauto - 11-06-2019

(11-06-2019, 00:04 AM)Black Alien Wrote:  
(11-06-2019, 00:01 AM)volavka Wrote:  
(10-06-2019, 23:51 PM)Black Alien Wrote:  immo ring has a big ic that my UPA cannot read..i opened it up for rl56 or anything but there was no small eeprom..is it possible to read by obd? using fvdi? is there is any other option? i will try to read code from ecu as you say

The big ic is contain mmo/keys data
UPA read with no problems Just need to unsolder Mcu and put in adapter TMS370

Br. V

i will try when morning comes,,,i will try to code from ecu first
You have Different VIN in ECU & Immo box one of has been changed & you must reset with pin for that VIN before can program this will give wrong Immo code / set wait time biggrin Note must be done through Immo Box Via OBD with capable scantool


RE: Opel Astra G wont program key - Ashraf6119 - 11-06-2019

1) By changing the Vin Number your Pin Code will not change the pin code will remain the same UN-less you reset the ECU and enter any other pin code that's when the pin code will change......

2) Your best bit is to use Carprog Tool to read pin code from engine ECU and use your FDVI to program the keys..

3) Once you have confirmed your pin code is right than go in to Immobilizer System delete all keys and program your new Transponder.

4) If you are 100% sure your pin code is right than check in live data and see what is the security time out showing it might have locked it due to entering wrong pin codes in that case live the ignition ON for the time showing and (with out switching ignition OFF) go back and enter your pin code to program the key


RE: Opel Astra G wont program key - Black Alien - 11-06-2019

(11-06-2019, 00:19 AM)fraserauto Wrote:  
(11-06-2019, 00:04 AM)Black Alien Wrote:  
(11-06-2019, 00:01 AM)volavka Wrote:  
(10-06-2019, 23:51 PM)Black Alien Wrote:  immo ring has a big ic that my UPA cannot read..i opened it up for rl56 or anything but there was no small eeprom..is it possible to read by obd? using fvdi? is there is any other option? i will try to read code from ecu as you say

The big ic is contain mmo/keys data
UPA read with no problems Just need to unsolder Mcu and put in adapter TMS370

Br. V

i will try when morning comes,,,i will try to code from ecu first
You have Different VIN in ECU & Immo box one of has been changed & you must reset with pin for that VIN before can program this will give wrong Immo code / set wait time biggrin Note must be done through Immo Box Via OBD with capable scantool

VIN from immo and ECU has to match first?

(11-06-2019, 00:37 AM)Ashraf6119 Wrote:  1) By changing the Vin Number your Pin Code will not change the pin code will remain the same UN-less you reset the ECU and enter any other pin code that's when the pin code will change......

2) Your best bit is to use Carprog Tool to read pin code from engine ECU and use your FDVI to program the keys..

3) Once you have confirmed your pin code is right than go in to Immobilizer System delete all keys and program your new Transponder.

4) If you are 100% sure your pin code is right than check in live data and see what is the security time out showing it might have locked it due to entering wrong pin codes in that case live the ignition ON for the time showing and (with out switching ignition OFF) go back and enter your pin code to program the key

if i reset ecu and enter any 4 digit pin, will it accept it? and that shall be my security to use to program the vehicle right?


RE: Opel Astra G wont program key - raffy haddad - 11-06-2019

no i should be the same pin code as in other module
regards


RE: Opel Astra G wont program key - dil6222 - 11-06-2019

Hello hope this will help 

all security codes and vin must be same in all units 

Check security wait time is inactive in immobilizer.

and yes it you reset it will accept any new pin but needs to match all other units.

if you still can't program key it means immo and ecu need resync to do this
reset ecu and immo the go on program immo there should be a option to program click on new ecm and immo installed from the drop-down box.

Then key should program correctly if you have opcom use 1.59 firmware smile

We will all help till solved smile