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HWEL BLUE/RED on a good p/n - sabinglig - 20-06-2022
I have several ecu's on a car that were changed, the part number is compatible with the car, but when i calculate svt target I get red/blue hwel. I can flash them using hwid from svt actual, but why do i have different hardware electronics on a good part number part? I can't use ista, it will always ask for a ecu exchange. Does anyone have any ideea how to solve this? Thanks guys.
RE: HWEL BLUE/RED on a good p/n - Hauer - 20-06-2022
It means that you have either wrong part numbers or incorrect FA.
RE: HWEL BLUE/RED on a good p/n - sabinglig - 20-06-2022
FA is in the original state. I have attached some pictures of the p/n read with ista, and hwel actual that is different from starget. My next question will be if ISTA readus the actual hardware number from the ecu?
RE: HWEL BLUE/RED on a good p/n - Node - 20-06-2022
In this specific case it seems like your actual part is F**** UP. 5A056C9 SHALL have HWEL 3309. HWEL 13F3 is also AAG high, BUT NOT for THIS part #. That DOES NOT CHANGE in S15 or S18. Looks like something in it was rewritten using programmer by someone who had no idea what he was doing. Or by some crook to sell it for more money.
RE: HWEL BLUE/RED on a good p/n - Hauer - 20-06-2022
(20-06-2022, 20:42 PM)Node Wrote: Have you chosen the correct connection target at all???? 13F3 is not AT ALL in S18A KIS data (which G05 is), but it is in S15 data...
good point
RE: HWEL BLUE/RED on a good p/n - sabinglig - 20-06-2022
Yes i did select the right target connection. P/N 5A056C9 is used in S15A target cars, and S18A target cars. Maybe the part comes from a S15A car, that might be posible. But the question remains, it is posible to have same p/n with different HWEL?
RE: HWEL BLUE/RED on a good p/n - Node - 20-06-2022
I have updated my answer. Ignore my previous one. I'm tired today and mixed meanings of blue and red.
Same part# to have different HWEL is NOT possible (well, it SHOULD not be possible under normal circumstances, you never know what BMW can decide to do).
RE: HWEL BLUE/RED on a good p/n - sabinglig - 20-06-2022
(20-06-2022, 21:12 PM)Node Wrote: I have updated my answer. Ignore my previous one. I'm tired today and mixed meanings of blue and red.
Same part# to have different HWEL is NOT possible (well, it SHOULD not be possible under normal circumstances, you never know what BMW can decide to do).
yes this might be possible, as it has several ecu's with same problem, good p/n but bad hwel. This gave me some had aches, trying to figure out what is wrong with it. Thanks for your time.
RE: HWEL BLUE/RED on a good p/n - BMWF01 - 21-06-2022
(20-06-2022, 20:08 PM)sabinglig Wrote: FA is in the original state. I have attached some pictures of the p/n read with ista, and hwel actual that is different from starget. My next question will be if ISTA readus the actual hardware number from the ecu?The HWEL that is in RED, is because that is the correct HWEL ID and file for the correct hardware Variant for the car's correct trailer tow hitch module, the production date for that hardware must be known and written in the FA and saved then it will work, also if the correct SA option code for that Hardware variant is added to CAR'S FA .xml and save and written to the vcm or in BDC /FEM Gateway.
If the HWEL or HWAP is BLUE its because the hardware variant is incorrect for the car's Vehicle order, or its production year & month is not correct, or the Correct SA option code is not added to Car's FA .XML and written to the Car's Gateway or VCM backup.
RE: HWEL BLUE/RED on a good p/n - Node - 21-06-2022
(21-06-2022, 17:28 PM)BMWF01 Wrote:(20-06-2022, 20:08 PM)sabinglig Wrote: FA is in the original state. I have attached some pictures of the p/n read with ista, and hwel actual that is different from starget. My next question will be if ISTA readus the actual hardware number from the ecu?The HWEL that is in RED, is because that is the correct HWEL ID and file for the correct hardware Variant for the car's correct trailer tow hitch module, the production date for that hardware must be known and written in the FA and saved then it will work, also if the correct SA option code for that Hardware variant is added to CAR'S FA .xml and save and written to the vcm or in BDC /FEM Gateway.
If the HWEL or HWAP is BLUE its because the hardware variant is incorrect for the car's Vehicle order, or its production year & month is not correct, or the Correct SA option code is not added to Car's FA .XML and written to the Car's Gateway or VCM backup.
If you would spend time researching the specific problem in this thread instead of writing what anyone with even little experience knows you would see that this specific part in question reports it's number as 5A056C9 and AT THE SAME TIME reports it's HWEL to be 13F3. It's clearly a case of someone writing wrong dump into the part. I don't see any other way for this to happen. As 5A056C9 HWEL is NOT 13F3.