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Flash e-series CIC to v41 software, BMW Apps without FSC
20-09-2015, 01:33 AM,
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XZBMW  Flash e-series CIC to v41 software, BMW Apps without FSC
This is for ECE/US CIC, not for Asian variants.

How to flash E-series CIC to V41 and get BMW Apps without FSC:

Prequisities: You must know how to use WinKFP. You also must have some knowledge about WinKFP expert mode. Interface must be ICOM A + B (or OP(P)S). No matter what you read from internet or hear from someone else, K+DCAN can not be used. Do not even try, it will fail for sure. Also your Ediabas must have all files for flashing modules. There is no need for WinKFP ecu-files. I recommend you to download (v41 or post) sp-daten and do "update sp-daten" with bmw coding tool.

Update must be done module by module. Correct order is 63, 62, A0. All modules can be flashed with MOST_ASYNC_ab625.

Download included package and extract it. CIC has three modules: 63, 62 and A0. 63 and A0 is the same for all chassis models so there is just one folder for each. 62 (gateway) has a different software for every chassis model so correct folder must be chosen. Chassis models are E60 (including E60, E61, E62, E63), E89 (including E8x and E9x) and E70 (including E70 and E71). Choose correct folder for 62.

Copy three folders (develop_63, develop_62_exx, develop_a0) to c:\ec-apps\nfs\data

There are three modules to flash. 63 is the first one. Go to c:\ec-apps\nfs\data and rename "develop_63" to "develop".

63:

-Configure ICOM for MOST_ASYNC_ab625
-Open WinKFP
-Select expert mode
-PABD = 08010408CI63F1.ipo (be carefully, do not choose CM63)
-P-SGBD = 33CI63F1_10.prg (be carefully, do not choose CM63)
-ECU-adress = 63
-Data = A9257174
-Program = 9257170
-NAAB = H020270_0202J5

WinKFP will complain about incorrect files and other things when you select the files, just ignore the complaints.

Now select done and you will get back to main menu. Now everything is ready for flash (also you have power supply connected, ignition on and cd/dvd removed from CIC). At this point you can turn on windows task manager (taskmgr.exe) because WinKFP progress meter will not work when flashing cic. Select "Program NAAB" and bootloader flash starts. CIC goes to bootloader mode and fan spins at full speed, this is normal. Screen shows bootloader picture or turns black, depending on old firmware version. Now you must be patient because the meter is not working. It will go to 100% and do all kind of things, just wait until "bootsector update finished" appears. Next select program program. Same precautions for this, it takes around 30 minutes to flash 63 program. After program programming has finished, select program data.

62:

Now you have flashed 63. Next you must flash 62. Go to c:\ec-apps\nfs\data and delete develop folder. Then rename develop_62_exx to develop. Go back to list on 63: on this guide. Configure WinKFP just like on that list, except change three bolded 63's to 62. Also select new data, program and NAAB files. If you did the folder swap (delete develop folder, rename develop_62_exx -> develop) correctly, there are just the correct files available. Select done and perform flash in the same order: NAAB, program, data. 62 is quite fast to flash, maybe five minutes for each part.

A0:

Now you know how to do this. Only difference is that A0 has only program, not data or NAAB. Delete old develop folder, rename develop_a0 to develop. Go again back to list on 63 on this guide, change three bolded 63's to A0. On this module you can't select data or NAAB, just select program and then select done. Choose program program. It takes around 30 minutes to program A0. After this, you have flashed your CIC to v41 and will get FSC-free BMW Apps.

After programming, code your CIC with NCS Expert.

I hope that this helps someone smile.


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20-09-2015, 01:57 AM,
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RE: Flash e-series CIC to v41 software, BMW Apps without FSC
First thanks for this awsome thread,
but one question.
Why don t you downgrade with ista p 2.41 .Its a little bit easier for the most people.
I did that several times with F Series , and i think there is no reason why that shouldn t work with E Series too.
Some dealer killed CIC with normal flashing via istap, that could be reason.They can not downgrade but the proces is nearly the same
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20-09-2015, 09:54 AM,
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RE: Flash e-series CIC to v41 software, BMW Apps without FSC
It will not work on e-series cars. They use completely different determination method for determining new software versions, which requires that flashing software knows old ZUSB number. Obviously v41 sp-datens will not identify newer software. F-series cars require only FA and i-step shipment, this information is enough to determine SVT Target.

Only way to do this on e-series is to use winkfp expert mode. Also it will be quite hard to find ISTA/P v41.
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20-09-2015, 11:04 AM,
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RE: Flash e-series CIC to v41 software, BMW Apps without FSC
(20-09-2015, 01:57 AM)hulahans Wrote:  First thanks for this awsome thread,
but one question.
Why don t you downgrade with ista p 2.41 .Its a little bit easier for the most people.
I did that several times with F Series , and i think there is no reason why that shouldn t work with E Series too.
Some dealer killed CIC with normal flashing via istap, that could be reason.They can not downgrade but the proces is nearly the same

Hulahans : does it really work , I heard from several people that ista p will not downgrade to lower version .

shade some info please if there is special procedure , clapping
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20-09-2015, 17:51 PM,
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RE: Flash e-series CIC to v41 software, BMW Apps without FSC
@ap90500
Thanks, forgotten the zusb handling, you are right, it will not work with E Series.

@ehssan
Sure it works with F Series, did it several times.
Very easy to handle. Change with Esys via vcm the I Level actual and last, to a lower one than the ista p version you like to use for downgrade.You can set them to shipping level for example.But surely don t change shipment level!

After that ista p will flash your car after making measurement plan.
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20-09-2015, 17:57 PM,
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RE: Flash e-series CIC to v41 software, BMW Apps without FSC
Got it mate . Good trick thanks for the hint [PERSON BOWING DEEPLY]

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20-09-2015, 20:09 PM,
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RE: Flash e-series CIC to v41 software, BMW Apps without FSC
Hope anyone do a tutorial and give us a link to watch
and one thing how Configure ICOM for MOST_ASYNC_ab625
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20-09-2015, 21:36 PM,
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RE: Flash e-series CIC to v41 software, BMW Apps without FSC
You can configure icom with easy connect
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21-09-2015, 06:45 AM,
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RE: Flash e-series CIC to v41 software, BMW Apps without FSC
Hi ap90500,

Many questions...

- Can i use this tutorial for my E63 coupe 03/2008 635D CV16548 ?
- The files attached in this post are correct for my car?
- Can i use "interface" fonction in DR GINI software (B13 version) for configure ICOM for MOST_ASYNC_ab625 and write EDABIAS.INI file ?
- ICOM selection + MOST selection : it's good choice?

Thanks a lot for your implication.
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21-09-2015, 10:20 AM,
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RE: Flash e-series CIC to v41 software, BMW Apps without FSC
- Can i use this tutorial for my E63 coupe 03/2008 635D CV16548 ?

Yes, if you have retrofitted CIC and combox. This tutorial is for CIC and car must also have combox to get apps. I added specific chassis models to the guide.

- The files attached in this post are correct for my car?

Yes, E60 is correct.

- Can i use "interface" fonction in DR GINI software (B13 version) for configure ICOM for MOST_ASYNC_ab625 and write EDABIAS.INI file ?

Probably yes. I have never tried with dr gini, I always use easy connect. You want to configure ediabas.ini for remote:most_async_ab625 so I can't see why it wouldn't work, if the software gives you an opportunity to configure ediabas.

- ICOM selection + MOST selection : it's good choice?

I don't understand this question.

I still remind, you must have some knowledge about winkfp use. This guide is not for those who have never used winkfp. Start with basics, downgrading cic is not basics.
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