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KL15 & R contact switch CAN commands
13-12-2017, 17:06 PM, (This post was last modified: 13-12-2017, 17:07 PM by inotherwords.)
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0Scope  KL15 & R contact switch CAN commands
Hi everybody!

I want to emulate "radio on" and "ignition on" commands on my bench setup and I have a simple CAN-USB adapter connected to CAN network and I don't have CAS.

Does anybody know specific CAN commands to set KL15 and R contact on? For E-series and F-series if there is a difference.

Thank you!
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13-12-2017, 19:27 PM,
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RE: KL15 & R contact switch CAN commands
Yes, E-models and F-models have different bus speeds and physical layers.

F-models have 500 kb/s, high speed CAN with 0-2.5 and 2.5-5 V range and need
ID 130 with length 5 and {69, 241, 252, 255, 255, 0, 0, 0} (not HEX) every 500-1000 ms
ID 12F with length 8 and {140, 80, 138, 221, 244, 5, 48, 6} (not HEX) every 500-1000 ms

E-model have 100 kb/s, low speed CAN with 0-5 V range and need
...I actually can´t find, I send it later

If someone needs a program for an Arduino with CAN shield, I wrote a program for it, including a part for infrared remote to switch it on or off or louder, and so on. But for E-models there is no CAN shield ready to buy, that has to be soldered and has different software. So if someone needs it for F or E models, no problem.
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13-12-2017, 23:01 PM, (This post was last modified: 13-12-2017, 23:01 PM by hero3838.)
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RE: KL15 & R contact switch CAN commands
Hi gt678
I ask a question
I want to retrofit my 08-2010 nbt .but i have to use most emulator .which is expensive than nbt
Is it possible if i disconnect most of zgw and use can bridge can1 to can2 will nbt work or not .
Also i am trying to flash a zgw with swl and btld but when i start flash zgw change ip how can is change zgw ip to statistic ip .or how can i flash zgw on table .i use e-sys connection as gateway .please can you help me for flashing

Sorry my car is f10 08-2010 build year
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14-12-2017, 13:04 PM,
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RE: KL15 & R contact switch CAN commands
(13-12-2017, 19:27 PM)gt678 Wrote:  F-models have 500 kb/s, high speed CAN with 0-2.5 and 2.5-5 V range and need
ID 130 with length 5 and {69, 241, 252, 255, 255, 0, 0, 0} (not HEX) every 500-1000 ms
ID 12F with length 8 and {140, 80, 138, 221, 244, 5, 48, 6} (not HEX) every 500-1000 ms

Thank you for the data!

(13-12-2017, 19:27 PM)gt678 Wrote:  E-model have 100 kb/s, low speed CAN with 0-5 V range and need
...I actually can´t find, I send it later

E-series is actual for me now. If you find these commands, I'll be very grateful for that. Thank you in advance!
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14-12-2017, 19:11 PM,
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RE: KL15 & R contact switch CAN commands
@hero3838
In your case the easiest and cheapest way is the MOST FXX emulator. In the F10 pre 07/2012 a lot information are also transported from ZGW through MOST to the headunit and cars pre 09/2010 if you switch the software from ZGW to ZGW2 you also have to buy a new CAS with newer HW index, otherwise the car will not start.

@inotherwords
Tomorrow I will have a look and send you.
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16-12-2017, 23:04 PM,
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RE: KL15 & R contact switch CAN commands
I flash a zgw from f25 with f10 zgw2 hwl and btld car starts,nbt all of function works but have flexy ray error and icm problem dsc and abs out of order .i think problem with may be flexy ray is diffirent cars .so i am waiting used two zgw from 10 one of than metal case zg1 other one zgw2 mid. also i will flash them and i will try ıt .how can i relearn to zgw flexy ray may be that is the solution
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17-12-2017, 04:42 AM,
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RE: KL15 & R contact switch CAN commands
(16-12-2017, 23:04 PM)hero3838 Wrote:  I flash a zgw from f25 with f10 zgw2 hwl and btld car starts,nbt all of function works but have flexy ray error and icm problem dsc and abs out of order .i think problem with may be flexy ray is diffirent cars .so i am waiting used two zgw from 10 one of than metal case zg1 other one zgw2 mid. also i will flash them and i will try ıt .how can i relearn to zgw flexy ray may be that is the solution

Your modification on hwel and the hardware will make this difficult.
Have you tried flexray initilization? If so, you need to run very specific and complicated commands through tool32 to reroute the signals etc.
What MY is the F10 you put this in?

Many Metal case ZGW is not flashable to "LCI swfl". Plastic ZGW MID will probably work in-car with NBT after flashing, but in my experience ZGW plastic MID does not have eth HW on the pcb so you don't have any use for this in a bench environment other than for coding/diagnostics.

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18-12-2017, 13:05 PM,
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RE: KL15 & R contact switch CAN commands
(14-12-2017, 19:11 PM)gt678 Wrote:  @inotherwords
Tomorrow I will have a look and send you.
Mmm makeup
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18-12-2017, 18:32 PM,
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RE: KL15 & R contact switch CAN commands
Tomorrow I´m back to work and I can send the inos and have a look at the CAN messages.

With the ZGW try to delete the Flex Ray initialization with TOOL32 and don´t initialize it again, there is no need to due to redundancy, my car runs pretty well since years without wink
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22-12-2017, 20:38 PM, (This post was last modified: 22-12-2017, 20:52 PM by hero3838.)
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RE: KL15 & R contact switch CAN commands
(18-12-2017, 18:32 PM)gt678 Wrote:  Tomorrow I´m back to work and I can send the inos and have a look at the CAN messages.

With the ZGW try to delete the Flex Ray initialization with TOOL32 and don´t initialize it again, there is no need to due to redundancy, my car runs pretty well since years without wink

I have 3 zgw with my orginal(mine zgw1 mid metal case), i flashed zgw2 mid with 8sk but have problem as photo flexy ray channel. I tried initalision with tool32 and ista-d bu no luck dtc error and car run but can not change transmission gear warning as press break pedal. I flashed zgw2 mid swlf and btld now i will try flash only swlf and btld and swlf stay as orginal. Now i use nbt zgw most disconneted and nbt most closed loop,sttering up down control doesn't work also right and left arrows, mode,mute buttons on teyp panel and also rearview and side view camera doesn't work and give error, LSD connection open or not connected. Have any idea kcan to kcan2 bridge can solve the problem


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