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BMW F10 (03/2012) NBT EVO retrofit SLI/FCW issues
14-02-2018, 18:28 PM,
Post: #1
BMW F10 (03/2012) NBT EVO retrofit SLI/FCW issues
Hello,

I am working on a NBT EVO(ID4 flashed to ID5) retrofit in a 2012 F10. Got all working except i have some issues with SLI and FCW. SLI isn't working at all just displaying sign with --- in it. For FCW I can't change the settings in menu. It just doesn't remember the setting. Since it is a 2012 car it uses KAFAS1.

Is there any FDL coding that can be done? Or do i need to convert to KAFAS2? Also other note is that the car have a 6WB cluster.

If it needs KAFAS2 is it straight swapping units and getting the right FSC codes or do I have a lot more trouble when swapping to KAFAS2?

Please don't offer FSC codes for KAFAS I know my way to get them.

Kind regards,

Lars
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14-02-2018, 18:35 PM,
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RE: BMW F10 (03/2012) NBT EVO retrofit SLI/FCW issues
As far as I am aware only way to solve that is to use the Carsystems MOST emulator because Kafas 1 and 2 do not use same bus speed.
So the emulator does the conversion nicely.
From experience, any pre 07.2012 that has high beam assist or Kafas, I always use MOST emulator.
Even if you convert ZGW to 8SK, it won't work anymore.

Now someone else might have a hack, but I doubt so. Not a matter of changing a few wires.
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14-02-2018, 19:02 PM,
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RE: BMW F10 (03/2012) NBT EVO retrofit SLI/FCW issues
If you have all other working car system also has an emulator for SLI what has also the possibility to swap KAFAS1 messages to KAFAS2 messages and is much more cheaper than the MOST Fxx emulator.
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14-02-2018, 19:39 PM, (This post was last modified: 14-02-2018, 19:40 PM by larshutten.)
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RE: BMW F10 (03/2012) NBT EVO retrofit SLI/FCW issues
Thanks for all the info. But i prefer to do it all without any emu since I didn't need one so far. Will contact carsystems for their options.

Just for the record swapping to KAFAS2 ECU and CAM is not an option?

Small edit I flashed the ZGW to 8SK software.
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15-02-2018, 06:49 AM,
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RE: BMW F10 (03/2012) NBT EVO retrofit SLI/FCW issues
HI,

your car was build with Kafas1, but Kafas1 on F10 isnt compatible to NBT or NBT Evo.
So you will need to use SLI emulator, this emulator will convert KAFAS1 information to NBT / NBT Evo.
Or retrofit Kafas2 ecu and cam with a new windshield.

The MOST retrofit adapter isnt needed, because your car should have right ZGW after flashing it.


Thorsten
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15-02-2018, 07:04 AM,
Post: #6
RE: BMW F10 (03/2012) NBT EVO retrofit SLI/FCW issues
Can you not FDL code the SLI option from gen1 to gen2 or the other way around? This is normal when doing 6WB retrofit, im not sure if it works the other way around though.
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15-02-2018, 07:30 AM,
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RE: BMW F10 (03/2012) NBT EVO retrofit SLI/FCW issues
HI,

this coding wouldnt solve the missing SLI information.


Thorsten
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14-05-2019, 19:38 PM,
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XZBMW  RE: BMW F10 (03/2012) NBT EVO retrofit SLI/FCW issues
(14-02-2018, 18:28 PM)larshutten Wrote:  Hello,

I am working on a NBT EVO(ID4 flashed to ID5) retrofit in a 2012 F10. Got all working except i have some issues with SLI and FCW. SLI isn't working at all just displaying sign with --- in it. For FCW I can't change the settings in menu. It just doesn't remember the setting. Since it is a 2012 car it uses KAFAS1.

Is there any FDL coding that can be done? Or do i need to convert to KAFAS2? Also other note is that the car have a 6WB cluster.

If it needs KAFAS2 is it straight swapping units and getting the right FSC codes or do I have a lot more trouble when swapping to KAFAS2?

Please don't offer FSC codes for KAFAS I know my way to get them.

Kind regards,

Lars

Have you found the solution for FCW ? I have a NBT EVO retrofit for F10 11.2012 with KAFAS2 with the same issue for FCW. SLI is working.
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14-05-2019, 20:57 PM,
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RE: BMW F10 (03/2012) NBT EVO retrofit SLI/FCW issues
Hi, no I didn’t get FCW setting fixed sadly.
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15-05-2019, 06:50 AM,
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RE: BMW F10 (03/2012) NBT EVO retrofit SLI/FCW issues
(15-02-2018, 07:30 AM)Thorsten Wrote:  HI,

this coding wouldnt solve the missing SLI information.


Thorsten

Try this : FDL code KOMBI 

NAVI_NBT_ENABLE change to NBT_ANZEIGE
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