[sauzee]

Hi guys a bit stumped here have 2 kangoos 2004 and 2003 The 2003 had a starting problem with 250000 miles on clock so i bought an accident damaged 2004 with 74k on clock started first turn.I swapped engines,ecu,immobiliser unit and key fob.The running engine had no fault codes but the 2003 one had df137 and df061 after clearing the codes they recur on new engine and wont start i have changed the glow plug relay unit from other van.I have looked at wiring for any chaffing cant see any also diesel reaching injectors
Any help please

[admiral]

Hi guys a bit stumped here have 2 kangoos 2004 and 2003 The 2003 had a starting problem with 250000 miles on clock so i bought an accident damaged 2004 with 74k on clock started first turn.I swapped engines,ecu,immobiliser unit and key fob.The running engine had no fault codes but the 2003 one had df137 and df061 after clearing the codes they recur on new engine and wont start i have changed the glow plug relay unit from other van.I have looked at wiring for any chaffing cant see any also diesel reaching injectors
Any help please

Check inertial cut off,,,,,,,,,,

[autost]

What live data do you have cranking?
Rpm
Fuel pressure
Cam/crank sync
immobilizer status

[sauzee]

Thanks guys i have checked the inersial switch changed it just in case the crank sensor was changed fuel pressure was 179 to 230 bar, rpm car not starting and immobiliser light out used Autocom to read codes i dont know why df137 as engine had no error codes when in other van the codes were present in the other van before engine change i cleared them but they return after cranking can it be a wiring issue if so where to look
Thanks

[autost]

Did you use the original injectors?
Will it run if you give it a sniff of brake cleaner?
Is fuel quality good?

[sauzee]

Did you use the original injectors?
Will it run if you give it a sniff of brake cleaner?
Is fuel quality good?

Yes i used the injectors that were paired with the engine and ecu i didn't have any brake cleaner but tried wd40 wouldnt fire fuel is good about 1/4tank
Thanks for your info

[autost]

fuel pressure was 179 to 230 bar, i dont know why df137 as engine had no error codes when in other van

It looks like you have a fuel supply problem to the high pressure pump

How quickly does the fuel pressure rise when cranking?

Try giving it some brake cleaner to see if it will run and help built the pressure up

also try using a can of diesel and give the pump your own a direct feed

non genuine fuel filters are bad for letting air enter the system

[sauzee]

fuel pressure was 179 to 230 bar, i dont know why df137 as engine had no error codes when in other van

It looks like you have a fuel supply problem to the high pressure pump

How quickly does the fuel pressure rise when cranking?

Try giving it some brake cleaner to see if it will run and help built the pressure up

also try using a can of diesel and give the pump your own a direct feed

non genuine fuel filters are bad for letting air enter the system

Thanks for your help,today i replaced the wiring loom in the engine bay to try to eliminate frayed wire i also removed and cleaned the earth strap and even added another earth also replaced the fuel filter.Today when i looked at live data while cranking the engine the fuel pressure was bouncing all over the place from 7 bar at lowest and 117 at highest.When hand priming the fuel you can hear the return pipe sending fuel back to the tank.I dont know if Autocom is misreading fuel pressure as there is no reason why it would fluctuate so much.Anyway i will try what you have suggested and let you know
Thanks again

[admiral]

fuel pressure was 179 to 230 bar, i dont know why df137 as engine had no error codes when in other van

It looks like you have a fuel supply problem to the high pressure pump

How quickly does the fuel pressure rise when cranking?

Try giving it some brake cleaner to see if it will run and help built the pressure up

also try using a can of diesel and give the pump your own a direct feed

non genuine fuel filters are bad for letting air enter the system

Thanks for your help,today i replaced the wiring loom in the engine bay to try to eliminate frayed wire i also removed and cleaned the earth strap and even added another earth also replaced the fuel filter.Today when i looked at live data while cranking the engine the fuel pressure was bouncing all over the place from 7 bar at lowest and 117 at highest.When hand priming the fuel you can hear the return pipe sending fuel back to the tank.I dont know if Autocom is misreading fuel pressure as there is no reason why it would fluctuate so much.Anyway i will try what you have suggested and let you know
Thanks again

Check iniectors leak

[sauzee]

Thanks for your reply Admiral just a quick update i gave it a spray and it started runs fine. I turned it off connected up Autocom and cleared the codes started it up again only code now is
DF061 - Preheater plugs circuit, open circuit
- Permanent
The fuel pressure now sits at 227-232 bar i now think the Preheater is causing the problem i have changed the loom that feeds it also the glowplug module and the regulator so i will try it again tomorrow when it is cold and see what happens
Hopefully i can find the DF061 fault
Thanks