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HHT in WINDOWS 64bit + Discussion
21-05-2018, 16:12 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-07-2018, 00:43 AM by pesona.)
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YTMercedes  HHT in WINDOWS 64bit + Discussion
Basically:
1. i create windows xp virtual pc (vhd), called windows xp mode (you can try making win 7 32bit vhd etc etc). then i copy HHT program (or install) in its C drive, make hhtpkw shortcut to its desktop.

i am sure this is the way MB Engineers did and hide it from public.
When configured correctly, with fast computer, the end-user will never know that they are running the application in an virtual environment.

2. i use windows 7 64bit as a host. you can google, how to set windows xp mode in windows 8 64bit or windows 10 64bit as host.

A.
How to Enable XP Mode in Windows 7.pdf
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B.
How to Run HHT in Windows 7 Using XP Mode.pdf
File Type: .pdf
Downloaded: 1,252 times
Size: 480.97 KB



C. Necessary files:
- Windows Virtual PC and Windows XP Mode Program
Windows Virtual PC and Windows XP Mode.txt
File Type: .txt
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Size: 70 bytes



- 64Bit Betriebssystem: HHTWIN Aufruf über virtuelle Maschine
copy this file to:
C:\Program files (x86)\Mercedes-Benz\DAS\bin
HHTWIN_VM.rar
File Type: .rar
Downloaded: 907 times
Size: 5.34 KB



- HHT call
copy this file to:
C:\Program files (x86)\Mercedes-Benz\DAS\trees\pkw\programm\hht_link
hht_call.rar
File Type: .rar
Downloaded: 754 times
Size: 2.95 KB



- HHT Standalone
Notes:
i include in it: hhtpkw.ico, hhtpkw and hhtnfz shortcut to desktop example.
in hhtpkw shortcut properties, i added -l02 (english language)
in hhtnfz shortcut properties, i added parameters -n to make it work in nfz
HHT Standalone.txt
File Type: .txt
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Size: 70 bytes



- HHT Language Setting
HHT LANGUAGE SETTING.txt
File Type: .txt
Downloaded: 673 times
Size: 616 bytes



- HHT x32 and x64 parameters
hht x32 and x64 parameters by pesona.pdf
File Type: .pdf
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Size: 58.34 KB



- SDConnect Toolkit
purpose:
if you don't install sdnc toolkit in the xp mode vm, add slave=partt2 in hhtwin.ini, hht will freeze quite a long time before it is run.
if you install sdnc toolkit, hht is run almost instantly.
for slave=partd2, without sdnc toolkit, hht is run well.
SDconnectToolkit2130.txt
File Type: .txt
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Size: 70 bytes



D. Some virtual pc setting. Please add if you think it should be set.
- Setting com port for partD (C3)
- Setting LAN for SDConnect
several winxp vhd setting 1.pdf
File Type: .pdf
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Size: 491.62 KB



- Setting allocated memory
- Setting X Close
several winxp vhd setting 2.pdf
File Type: .pdf
Downloaded: 440 times
Size: 754.39 KB



E. Files and folder taken from Xentry Kit 3 WIN10 x64
(thanks @Rocinante)

1. HHT files from das bin
HHT files from das bin XKIT 3 WIN10.txt
File Type: .txt
Downloaded: 442 times
Size: 70 bytes



2. HHT folder
HHTwin x64 from xentry kit 3.txt
File Type: .txt
Downloaded: 523 times
Size: 70 bytes



3. Successful VM setting from XKit 3 WIN 10 x64. (not get the info yet)


Notes:
- 64bit xdos is the recommended version because of new MB VCI.
- if you have something usefull to add, don't hesitate to add it.

Disclaimer:
i hope you all will be entertained and get the ideas of running hht in 64bit system.
Testing is in progress... my goal to share is to show HHT can be called from XDOS (or as HHT standalone) and run in windows 64bit smoothly
i made it as transparent as possible for educational purposes only.

   

   

   
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22-05-2018, 15:32 PM,
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RE: HHT in WINDOWS 64bit
i update my first post. i hope you all can help make it perfect. Thanks
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03-06-2018, 01:12 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-06-2018, 09:18 AM by pesona.)
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RE: HHT in WINDOWS 64bit
i update my first post in C. Necessary files.
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03-06-2018, 18:14 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-06-2018, 18:16 PM by botya.)
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RE: HHT in WINDOWS 64bit + Discussion
Fine work, guy, but I have doubts about its necessity, it's much easier to have two operating systems on one hard disk, when an old car comes into service that works with HHT, just load x86 OS
you are guaranteed do not need XDOS 05/2018 to work whis W163
am I wrong?


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04-06-2018, 00:40 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-06-2018, 00:54 AM by pesona.)
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RE: HHT in WINDOWS 64bit + Discussion
@botya yes, your idea is good. yes
some of my friends dedicated one laptop with one mux(partD) for hht in their (big) workshops. while others want hht included in their winx64 just like the genuine MB diagnostic tool.
so what is the benefit of this thread other than revealing the secret behind hht in winx64?
for me, as writing in the disclaimer, for educational purposes only. biggrin
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06-06-2018, 20:58 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-06-2018, 17:45 PM by connector.)
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RE: HHT in WINDOWS 64bit + Discussion
Hi pesona m8, thanks for all your work

I followed your instructions and got hht running in Win7 64, and then fixed my XP Mode Ethernet adapter to correct IP, then went and tried on a 38pin 208 chassis, but couldn't get HHTPKW to see my SDconnect

Do I need to set "slave=partt2" or "partt" in hhtwin.ini? I noticed its not in there after I left the car.

I also noticed that the XP Mode complained about duplicate IP address' , so when I was on the car, I tried only setting one adapter at a time to the SDConnect IP.

cheers, connector.

edit: HHTWIN just seems to freeze if I try to set an interface.
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21-06-2018, 02:04 AM,
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RE: HHT in WINDOWS 64bit + Discussion
(06-06-2018, 20:58 PM)connector Wrote:  Hi pesona m8, thanks for all your work

I followed your instructions and got hht running in Win7 64, and then fixed my XP Mode Ethernet adapter to correct IP, then went and tried on a 38pin 208 chassis, but couldn't get HHTPKW to see my SDconnect

Do I need to set "slave=partt2" or "partt" in hhtwin.ini? I noticed its not in there after I left the car.

I also noticed that the XP Mode complained about duplicate IP address' , so when I was on the car, I tried only setting one adapter at a time to the SDConnect IP.

cheers, connector.

edit: HHTWIN just seems to freeze if I try to set an interface.

Did you try installing the toolkit in the XP Mode VM? You would want to give it a different IP than your SDConnect or Host OS, but on the same subnet.
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29-06-2018, 09:54 AM,
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RE: HHT in WINDOWS 64bit + Discussion
can I run htt on 05.18 for w163?
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29-06-2018, 10:52 AM,
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RE: HHT in WINDOWS 64bit + Discussion
use windows 7x32 bit mate, you can even use 2018-07.
for windows x64, no one test it yet
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06-07-2018, 18:02 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-07-2018, 18:03 PM by connector.)
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RE: HHT in WINDOWS 64bit + Discussion
(21-06-2018, 02:04 AM)W123 Wrote:  Did you try installing the toolkit in the XP Mode VM? You would want to give it a different IP than your SDConnect or Host OS, but on the same subnet.

I did not install SDNC toolkit in the XP Mode VM. Good idea about different IP.

HHT freezes if I try to set Slave=partt2 and run the program. I put it aside for now, but I was also wondering if it needed .net framework or C++ runtimes. I can try next time I get a HHT car.

Cheers.
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