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Can I use B9 A4 firmware to chinese B9 A4L?
09-07-2018, 07:17 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-07-2018, 08:25 AM by qian3303.)
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ZTAudi  Can I use B9 A4 firmware to chinese B9 A4L?
Hello, I am a Chinese.
I bought a B9 A4L 2017.
But It can't update map and fireware online.

Then I coded some hidden function by 5053 17.8.1 or 5054 clone.
Odis-e 8.1.3 update postsetup 109.0.60 and projects newest.

Although,I stille can't find login/pin code to open develop mode and map update version 7611 to 7920 ,firmware update version 0618 to 0720.

Chinese fireware limit too many.
So I ask for help that how to update by A4 firmware instand of Chinese firmware.


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09-07-2018, 13:10 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-07-2018, 13:10 PM by apoelistas.)
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RE: Can I use B9 A4 firmware to chinese B9 A4L?
Odis engineering or my favorite VCP?

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10-07-2018, 03:01 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-07-2018, 06:28 AM by qian3303.)
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ZTAudi  RE: Can I use B9 A4 firmware to chinese B9 A4L?
(09-07-2018, 13:10 PM)apoelistas Wrote:  Odis engineering or my favorite VCP?

Odis engineering 8.1.3 ,109.0.60 update .

Never used VCP.

I have 5053 line and 5054a bluetooth, can use for VCP sofeware?
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10-07-2018, 08:54 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-07-2018, 08:57 AM by apoelistas.)
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RE: Can I use B9 A4 firmware to chinese B9 A4L?
(10-07-2018, 03:01 AM)qian3303 Wrote:  
(09-07-2018, 13:10 PM)apoelistas Wrote:  Odis engineering or my favorite VCP?

Odis engineering 8.1.3 ,109.0.60 update .

Never used VCP.

I have 5053 line and 5054a bluetooth, can use for VCP sofeware?

For VCP you need both VCP hardware and VCP software (you cannot use vas5054a) Then you get flashdaten and if firmware is compatible with your ECU then you can flash your control unit offline.

With vas5054a you can use odis-e engineering and the firmware you wish to flash if compatible with your ECU again offline.

Both methods give same result.

In case your ECU needs parameterization files then those are available from VCP support and you can download them.

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11-07-2018, 08:13 AM,
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ZTAudi  RE: Can I use B9 A4 firmware to chinese B9 A4L?
(10-07-2018, 08:54 AM)apoelistas Wrote:  
(10-07-2018, 03:01 AM)qian3303 Wrote:  
(09-07-2018, 13:10 PM)apoelistas Wrote:  Odis engineering or my favorite VCP?

Odis engineering 8.1.3 ,109.0.60 update .

Never used VCP.

I have 5053 line and 5054a bluetooth, can use for VCP sofeware?

For VCP you need both VCP hardware and VCP software (you cannot use vas5054a) Then you get flashdaten and if firmware is compatible with your ECU then you can flash your control unit offline.

With vas5054a you can use odis-e engineering and the firmware you wish to flash if compatible with your ECU again offline.

Both methods give same result.

In case your ECU needs parameterization files then those are available from VCP support and you can download them.

Thanks for your reply.
Is ECU equals fireware of MMI ?
Can I bak my origin ECU , then update new version.
If these will have some problem, Can I recovery my bak ECU?



I try some unit ,but none match ,I'm afraid that Chinese unit NO. is different ,It may be custom.

Then I search VCP, the last version is 5.5.1 2016.
I can't sure that can match B9 A4L.
Or you can give me a store can Bought the newest which can match my car, language is Chinese better.

Thanks very much.
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11-07-2018, 22:58 PM,
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RE: Can I use B9 A4 firmware to chinese B9 A4L?
(11-07-2018, 08:13 AM)qian3303 Wrote:  
(10-07-2018, 08:54 AM)apoelistas Wrote:  
(10-07-2018, 03:01 AM)qian3303 Wrote:  
(09-07-2018, 13:10 PM)apoelistas Wrote:  Odis engineering or my favorite VCP?

Odis engineering 8.1.3 ,109.0.60 update .

Never used VCP.

I have 5053 line and 5054a bluetooth, can use for VCP sofeware?

For VCP you need both VCP hardware and VCP software (you cannot use vas5054a) Then you get flashdaten and if firmware is compatible with your ECU then you can flash your control unit offline.

With vas5054a you can use odis-e engineering and the firmware you wish to flash if compatible with your ECU again offline.

Both methods give same result.

In case your ECU needs parameterization files then those are available from VCP support and you can download them.

Thanks for your reply.
Is ECU equals fireware of MMI ?
Can I bak my origin ECU , then update new version.
If these will have some problem, Can I recovery my bak ECU?



I try some unit ,but none match ,I'm afraid that Chinese unit NO. is different ,It may be custom.

Then I search VCP, the last version is 5.5.1 2016.
I can't sure that can match B9 A4L.
Or you can give me a store can Bought the newest which can match my car, language is Chinese better.

Thanks very much.

VCP 5.5 is clone. Newest version is something like 8.x

For backing up your ecu you need help from someone else. It is done externally (by opening the ECU) using KTAG, and you can back up, or transfer the ecu to another similar second hand control unit. This is too advanced to me too.

odis-E has some additional options for engine ECU to parametrize but I have not tested them. Maybe you get lucky and this is only what is needed.

Try first with odis-E. Try what parameter options it gives you and copy them here. Maybe someone can help you out.

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12-07-2018, 02:44 AM,
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ZTAudi  RE: Can I use B9 A4 firmware to chinese B9 A4L?
(11-07-2018, 22:58 PM)apoelistas Wrote:  
(11-07-2018, 08:13 AM)qian3303 Wrote:  
(10-07-2018, 08:54 AM)apoelistas Wrote:  
(10-07-2018, 03:01 AM)qian3303 Wrote:  
(09-07-2018, 13:10 PM)apoelistas Wrote:  Odis engineering or my favorite VCP?

Odis engineering 8.1.3 ,109.0.60 update .

Never used VCP.

I have 5053 line and 5054a bluetooth, can use for VCP sofeware?

For VCP you need both VCP hardware and VCP software (you cannot use vas5054a) Then you get flashdaten and if firmware is compatible with your ECU then you can flash your control unit offline.

With vas5054a you can use odis-e engineering and the firmware you wish to flash if compatible with your ECU again offline.

Both methods give same result.

In case your ECU needs parameterization files then those are available from VCP support and you can download them.

Thanks for your reply.
Is ECU equals fireware of MMI ?
Can I bak my origin ECU , then update new version.
If these will have some problem, Can I recovery my bak ECU?



I try some unit ,but none match ,I'm afraid that Chinese unit NO. is different ,It may be custom.

Then I search VCP, the last version is 5.5.1 2016.
I can't sure that can match B9 A4L.
Or you can give me a store can Bought the newest which can match my car, language is Chinese better.

Thanks very much.

VCP 5.5 is clone. Newest version is something like 8.x

For backing up your ecu you need help from someone else. It is done externally (by opening the ECU) using KTAG, and you can back up, or transfer the ecu to another similar second hand control unit. This is too advanced to me too.

odis-E has some additional options for engine ECU to parametrize but I have not tested them. Maybe you get lucky and this is only what is needed.

Try first with odis-E. Try what parameter options it gives you and copy them here. Maybe someone can help you out.

Thanks a lot...
I download flashdata from office site is 2018-06-06,that's so big data .
Next time ,I try it and update 2018-07 version .
Do you know how to buy vcp 8.x or download link about office mmi firmware?
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12-07-2018, 22:28 PM,
Post: #8
RE: Can I use B9 A4 firmware to chinese B9 A4L?
(12-07-2018, 02:44 AM)qian3303 Wrote:  
(11-07-2018, 22:58 PM)apoelistas Wrote:  
(11-07-2018, 08:13 AM)qian3303 Wrote:  
(10-07-2018, 08:54 AM)apoelistas Wrote:  
(10-07-2018, 03:01 AM)qian3303 Wrote:  Odis engineering 8.1.3 ,109.0.60 update .

Never used VCP.

I have 5053 line and 5054a bluetooth, can use for VCP sofeware?

For VCP you need both VCP hardware and VCP software (you cannot use vas5054a) Then you get flashdaten and if firmware is compatible with your ECU then you can flash your control unit offline.

With vas5054a you can use odis-e engineering and the firmware you wish to flash if compatible with your ECU again offline.

Both methods give same result.

In case your ECU needs parameterization files then those are available from VCP support and you can download them.

Thanks for your reply.
Is ECU equals fireware of MMI ?
Can I bak my origin ECU , then update new version.
If these will have some problem, Can I recovery my bak ECU?



I try some unit ,but none match ,I'm afraid that Chinese unit NO. is different ,It may be custom.

Then I search VCP, the last version is 5.5.1 2016.
I can't sure that can match B9 A4L.
Or you can give me a store can Bought the newest which can match my car, language is Chinese better.

Thanks very much.

VCP 5.5 is clone. Newest version is something like 8.x

For backing up your ecu you need help from someone else. It is done externally (by opening the ECU) using KTAG, and you can back up, or transfer the ecu to another similar second hand control unit. This is too advanced to me too.

odis-E has some additional options for engine ECU to parametrize but I have not tested them. Maybe you get lucky and this is only what is needed.

Try first with odis-E. Try what parameter options it gives you and copy them here. Maybe someone can help you out.

Thanks a lot...
I download flashdata from office site is 2018-06-06,that's so big data .
Next time ,I try it and update 2018-07 version .
Do you know how to buy vcp 8.x or download link about office mmi firmware?
Type vcpsystem in Google
I am not sure if mmi navigation firmwares are available for free. Theoretically they should be bundled with the maps. Maybe if you disclose your firmware maybe someone can advice.

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13-07-2018, 02:52 AM,
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ZTAudi  RE: Can I use B9 A4 firmware to chinese B9 A4L?
(12-07-2018, 22:28 PM)apoelistas Wrote:  
(12-07-2018, 02:44 AM)qian3303 Wrote:  
(11-07-2018, 22:58 PM)apoelistas Wrote:  
(11-07-2018, 08:13 AM)qian3303 Wrote:  
(10-07-2018, 08:54 AM)apoelistas Wrote:  For VCP you need both VCP hardware and VCP software (you cannot use vas5054a) Then you get flashdaten and if firmware is compatible with your ECU then you can flash your control unit offline.

With vas5054a you can use odis-e engineering and the firmware you wish to flash if compatible with your ECU again offline.

Both methods give same result.

In case your ECU needs parameterization files then those are available from VCP support and you can download them.

Thanks for your reply.
Is ECU equals fireware of MMI ?
Can I bak my origin ECU , then update new version.
If these will have some problem, Can I recovery my bak ECU?



I try some unit ,but none match ,I'm afraid that Chinese unit NO. is different ,It may be custom.

Then I search VCP, the last version is 5.5.1 2016.
I can't sure that can match B9 A4L.
Or you can give me a store can Bought the newest which can match my car, language is Chinese better.

Thanks very much.

VCP 5.5 is clone. Newest version is something like 8.x

For backing up your ecu you need help from someone else. It is done externally (by opening the ECU) using KTAG, and you can back up, or transfer the ecu to another similar second hand control unit. This is too advanced to me too.

odis-E has some additional options for engine ECU to parametrize but I have not tested them. Maybe you get lucky and this is only what is needed.

Try first with odis-E. Try what parameter options it gives you and copy them here. Maybe someone can help you out.

Thanks a lot...
I download flashdata from office site is 2018-06-06,that's so big data .
Next time ,I try it and update 2018-07 version .
Do you know how to buy vcp 8.x or download link about office mmi firmware?
Type vcpsystem in Google
I am not sure if mmi navigation firmwares are available for free. Theoretically they should be bundled with the maps. Maybe if you disclose your firmware maybe someone can advice.

How to find my firmware?
I just know version.
I post a picture about my firmware ,but I did't know how to seach by what keyword.
Anyway,thank you.
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