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CANCLIP interface fix and repair !
25-04-2014, 13:17 PM,
Post: #1
CANCLIP interface fix and repair !
Hello all GA guys,

Here is a CANCLIP who underwent attempted repair ... he apparently had several problems including non-detection of the USB port, with one of two green LEDs off ,
and another on the multiplex network with unrecognized calculators !

So I set out to change and replace the components that had undergone attempted repair with Printed circuit tracks torn

Components were:

SJA1000T, PCA82C251 , CYPRESS AN2135SC and his quartz and two quartz 32.768kHz !


Here is the result after a good cleaning:


[Image: img_3019.jpg]

[Image: img_3020.jpg]

[Image: img_3021.jpg]


Several tracks on PCB are gone.... sadsadsad .... noticed; Chinese , we do not sit too glue that they used ? ?
So implementation of new components plus change the relay on the CAN card :


CAN electronic board :

[Image: img_3111.jpg]

[Image: img_3112.jpg]

[Image: img_3113.jpg]

Then reassembling the whole, connection on USB port + 12Vdc:

All LEDs light up , that's a good sign.


Installing drivers and outstanding :

[Image: reconn12.jpg]


Then start the clip version V136 with RSWIN software activation :
update firmware of RLT2002 probe :

[Image: mise_a10.jpg]


then attempt to read the VIN "empty" ( ie without vehicle)

[Image: recher10.jpg]


The test is quite conclusive, but let's get serious with tests on a Laguna2 ph2 (with diferent PC and V126 clip ... version ) :
Identification VIN automatic , no worries ; I get the manual box and a range of 0 and is part of a network scan and end scan ....

Message: check the integrity of the multiplexed detection and network computers 3 of 9 !

[Image: config12.jpg]


There is therefore still a big concern on this interface , but where ? ? ? ? ? ?

If we look with another probe ( always Chinese ) but it works : Here what you get on a scan of the network architecture :

[Image: reseau11.jpg]


On a small pattern found after on ethernet concerning the pin assignment of the OBD socket (on a megane 2) , there is high chance that the missing computers
be associated with the terminal 7 of the decision ; ie the line out ISO 9141-2 K

Let's start by looking at therefore continuity of all pinoches connector obd onto the card with the input interface connector. Here it is:

[Image: img_0610.jpg]


At first sight nothing special, but when you take a multimeter and test continuity; we see this video:



yikes yikes Incredible , no conduction immediately behind the pin round input and sounds canclip point nearest test connector ....

So I redo the weld and the other in passing.


I back all this and steering the car ; I raise the software and now i communicate with all calculators .cheerscheers


[Image: config13.jpg]



Still problems welding ...... this is crazy ....


Regards .
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26-04-2014, 16:32 PM,
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RE: CANCLIP interface fix and repair !
What an excellent post well done sir ( can i be cheeky now please a m8 has that exact problem but pins on connector to k line pin7 are okay? anychance of showing the rest of kline circuit on the pcb .

regards sparkfly
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26-04-2014, 19:51 PM,
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ORenult  RE: CANCLIP interface fix and repair !
And here have another version PCB of Clip interface (full chinese with very carefully cleaned marks on chips jealous)


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Quality tool as the beautiful woman...
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26-04-2014, 22:01 PM,
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RE: CANCLIP interface fix and repair !
(26-04-2014, 19:51 PM)obdstart Wrote:  And here have another version PCB of Clip interface (full chinese with very carefully cleaned marks on chips jealous)

Canclip interface with bluetooth. She works with all clip Versions and most important with Nissan consult. A kind of alliance probe!

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27-04-2014, 05:31 AM,
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RE: CANCLIP interface fix and repair !
Well yes it is thrue. This is a kind of Alliance ( maybe made by FLY )
It works with all Renault/Dacia/Nissan cars
As I remmeber it coudn't connect in some k-line controlers in Nissan cars but it could connect in old Dacia cars up to 2004 ( as Solenza/SuperNova )
Bluetooth I couldn't pair it anymore
Good luck
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15-05-2014, 20:34 PM,
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RE: CANCLIP interface fix and repair !
Hi G.A guys,

Here are a PCB CANCLIP interface ( bluetooth) recognized by clip software with the reference 926573 and can work with the NISSAN CONSULT software.

[Image: img_0611.jpg]

This interface is slightly different than obdstart


CAN electronic board :

[Image: img_0612.jpg]

[Image: img_0613.jpg]


ISO electronic board :

[Image: img_0614.jpg]

[Image: img_0615.jpg]


This interface is down, the green ISO LED does not light up ! !

Looking for a bit more meadows, using a multimeter we can see that the ISO LED is controlled
directly from microprocessor on CAN electronic board via component and 2x35 points connector. So I redid the welds of
these components.

Another point on the CAN electronic board at the voltage converter 3.3Vdc -> 5Vdc ( LTC1871 ),we found a power MOSFET
in case SOIC8 . I guess it is a FDS7760A following the LTC1871 datasheet (the reference of the component being buffed ! ) Here:

[Image: img_3115.jpg]


This component is cooled through the ground plane ! This is why it is slightly over- high.
Moreover, a drain tabs ( in this case the pin5 ) is not welded ? ?
So I resoldered this component properly, taking care of the well -plated to ensure contact with the runway under
thereof.

After a test table with a 12Vdc power supply , the green ISO LED lights again .


Recognition of the USB driver in the device manager :

[Image: pilote10.jpg]


Updating firmware of the probe :

[Image: detect10.jpg]


Then direction vehicle, for a real test on a multiplex network :

[Image: reseau12.jpg]



Playing a default on the parking brake :

[Image: defaut10.jpg]



And now a new probe repaired.


links :

Voltage converter datasheet : LTC1871EMS ( LTSX marking code)
MOSFET datasheet : FDS4072N3 ( guess the reference component being buffed !)

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16-05-2014, 05:18 AM,
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RE: CANCLIP interface fix and repair !
Do you know how to pair the bluetooth?
Good luck
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16-05-2014, 05:35 AM,
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RE: CANCLIP interface fix and repair !
That buffed chip is not that one on the original VI ALLIANCE interface.

Look the attahced picture ... it's FDS4072N3.

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16-05-2014, 07:01 AM,
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RE: CANCLIP interface fix and repair !
(16-05-2014, 05:35 AM)morfej Wrote:  That buffed chip is not that one on the original VI ALLIANCE interface.

Look the attahced picture ... it's FDS4072N3.

br

Hello,

Thank you for the correction of Reference.
if you own an original could you give us some pictures please?

Thank you in advance

Regards
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16-05-2014, 07:22 AM,
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RE: CANCLIP interface fix and repair !
Awesome post guys!!!

Well done.
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