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How to work out which zb to flash for used ecu without orginal ecu
22-03-2019, 00:00 AM,
Post: #11
RE: How to work out which zb to flash for used ecu without orginal ecu
(21-03-2019, 21:56 PM)____ANGEL___ Wrote:  
(20-03-2019, 14:33 PM)Bavrian Wrote:  I have a car which came without any engine ecu or cas as these were missing

I have brought a replacement used ecu set with cas, key and engine ecu

I need to know which zb I need to flash this engine ecu with for this car

the engine ecu hardware number is the right one for the car

how can one find out which engine ecu software to load to the used engine ecu with as there are many variants

I have winkfp & ista p

but winkfp gives 23 different versions

the car in question is a

E60 Jan 2007 pre lci

530d m57/t2

170kw/231bhp

type code NR72

you have to work like this https://cartechnology.co.uk/showthread.p...619&page=3

very very very simple, searching in etk pre lci e60 530d m57n2: 7808222 is the only dde present, so dde626!

So this will be your program file 7808222 and for data file that's: (according to reference number in 7808222.0da and last zb dde626.his)

7811730 manual---------------zb 7811719
7811733 eu3 manual-----------zb 7811722
7811734 auto-----------------zb 7811723
7811737 eu3 auto-------------zb 7811726
7811739 xdrive manual---------zb 7811728
7811740 xdrive auto-----------zb 7811729

cas zb 9147215 (part no. in etk is 6965050 and last zb for 6965050 is 9147215 according to cas260.his)

you can't use software not matching your hardware, so hope that you buyed correct numbers cas and dde...

why guys make you complicated things that are simple?

All right, everythings fine, but how did you find 7808222 number in dde626.his? There is no such a number. Or how did you find that 9147215 is the last zb for 6965050? When I search for 6965050 in cas260.his I've got:
old 6963828 ->6965050 new
old 6965050 ->6943804 new

I have the newest sp-daten.

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22-03-2019, 00:29 AM,
Post: #12
RE: How to work out which zb to flash for used ecu without orginal ecu
(22-03-2019, 00:00 AM)Matthew53 Wrote:  
(21-03-2019, 21:56 PM)____ANGEL___ Wrote:  
(20-03-2019, 14:33 PM)Bavrian Wrote:  I have a car which came without any engine ecu or cas as these were missing

I have brought a replacement used ecu set with cas, key and engine ecu

I need to know which zb I need to flash this engine ecu with for this car

the engine ecu hardware number is the right one for the car

how can one find out which engine ecu software to load to the used engine ecu with as there are many variants

I have winkfp & ista p

but winkfp gives 23 different versions

the car in question is a

E60 Jan 2007 pre lci

530d m57/t2

170kw/231bhp

type code NR72

you have to work like this https://cartechnology.co.uk/showthread.p...619&page=3

very very very simple, searching in etk pre lci e60 530d m57n2: 7808222 is the only dde present, so dde626!

So this will be your program file 7808222 and for data file that's: (according to reference number in 7808222.0da and last zb dde626.his)

7811730 manual---------------zb 7811719
7811733 eu3 manual-----------zb 7811722
7811734 auto-----------------zb 7811723
7811737 eu3 auto-------------zb 7811726
7811739 xdrive manual---------zb 7811728
7811740 xdrive auto-----------zb 7811729

cas zb 9147215 (part no. in etk is 6965050 and last zb for 6965050 is 9147215 according to cas260.his)

you can't use software not matching your hardware, so hope that you buyed correct numbers cas and dde...

why guys make you complicated things that are simple?

All right, everythings fine, but how did you find 7808222 number in dde626.his? There is no such a number. Or how did you find that 9147215 is the last zb for 6965050? When I search for 6965050 in cas260.his I've got:
old 6963828 ->6965050 new
old 6965050 ->6943804 new

I have the newest sp-daten.

not exactly, 7808222 i say reference number(in 0pa)... check reference number in 0da files and note responding number, then check in dde626.dat for zb number, then in dde626.his for last zb... all already explained here https://cartechnology.co.uk/showthread.p...619&page=3 that i say in mine first post....


old 6965050 ->6943804 new

go ahead, once more

old 6949804->9147215 new

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22-03-2019, 22:55 PM,
Post: #13
RE: How to work out which zb to flash for used ecu without orginal ecu
(21-03-2019, 21:56 PM)____ANGEL___ Wrote:  
(20-03-2019, 14:33 PM)Bavrian Wrote:  I have a car which came without any engine ecu or cas as these were missing

I have brought a replacement used ecu set with cas, key and engine ecu

I need to know which zb I need to flash this engine ecu with for this car

the engine ecu hardware number is the right one for the car

how can one find out which engine ecu software to load to the used engine ecu with as there are many variants

I have winkfp & ista p

but winkfp gives 23 different versions

the car in question is a

E60 Jan 2007 pre lci

530d m57/t2

170kw/231bhp

type code NR72

you have to work like this https://cartechnology.co.uk/showthread.p...619&page=3

very very very simple, searching in etk pre lci e60 530d m57n2: 7808222 is the only dde present, so dde626!

So this will be your program file 7808222 and for data file that's: (according to reference number in 7808222.0da and last zb dde626.his)

7811730 manual---------------zb 7811719
7811733 eu3 manual-----------zb 7811722
7811734 auto-----------------zb 7811723
7811737 eu3 auto-------------zb 7811726
7811739 xdrive manual---------zb 7811728
7811740 xdrive auto-----------zb 7811729

cas zb 9147215 (part no. in etk is 6965050 and last zb for 6965050 is 9147215 according to cas260.his)

you can't use software not matching your hardware, so hope that you buyed correct numbers cas and dde...

why guys make you complicated things that are simple?

Hi thanks for the above info it was great help iv managed to work out how to check this now

I had already brought dde part number 7803369

which is the same as 7808222 but just the older part number before it as it was superseded by 7808222

the above ecu came from a 530d xdrive auto it had 7811729 zb on it now its updated to 7811723zb by istap which is the correct version according to your above info too

now regarding the cas I brought a cas 3 black version part number 6943814 which came with the engine ecu as a set accoding to etk its for a pre lci car sep 2006 to Nov 06

when I check etk with the car vin it shows cas3 but different part numbers 6135 9226238  or 6135 9395657

I checked part number 6965050 it says its only till sep 2005 and above numbers after sep 2005 till march 2007 for cas3

should it have a cas2 or cas3 if its made in Dec 2006 registered in Jan 2007

currently car is just cranking only not starting but all isn in dde and cas match and its been synced no faults in dde or cas so may be a fueling issue somewhere

or could the cas be the issue if its different part number
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22-03-2019, 23:26 PM, (This post was last modified: 23-03-2019, 07:26 AM by ____ANGEL___.)
Post: #14
RE: How to work out which zb to flash for used ecu without orginal ecu
yes, maybe i forget this part " E60 Jan 2007 pre lci" , sorry you 're right, last cas3 9395657 same zb number... but plese provide vin for correctness

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23-03-2019, 07:16 AM,
Post: #15
RE: How to work out which zb to flash for used ecu without orginal ecu
When I replace both CAS and DDE, I normally don't bother with correct ZUSB until I have engine start. Just align ISN and crank car. Once car starts then bother about correct ZUSB for the car.

1. Do you get fuel pressure? Can you read rail pressure when cranking
2. If 1 above is positive, do you get any injector pulse/voltage?
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23-03-2019, 16:59 PM, (This post was last modified: 23-03-2019, 17:22 PM by Bavrian.)
Post: #16
RE: How to work out which zb to flash for used ecu without orginal ecu
(22-03-2019, 23:26 PM)____ANGEL___ Wrote:  yes, maybe i forget this part " E60 Jan 2007 pre lci" , sorry you 're right, last cas3 9395657 same zb number... but plese provide vin for correctness

Thanks car vin is CR89011 I will get pics of the current cas zb numbers tomorrow to make sure they are correct

(23-03-2019, 07:16 AM)willisodhiambo Wrote:  When I replace both CAS and DDE, I normally don't bother with correct ZUSB until I have engine start. Just align ISN and crank car. Once car starts then bother about correct ZUSB for the car.

1. Do you get fuel pressure? Can you read rail pressure when cranking
2. If 1 above is positive, do you get any injector pulse/voltage?


I did try that originally and the car did the same just crank but not start

I didn't get enough time to check the fuel pressure or injector pulse voltage these I will look at tomorrow as will have more time


can I use ista D to check the live fuel pressure values

Edit: I found in ista D function read dde measured values hopefully it allows to check the rail pressure without engine being started and also injector pulse voltage if rail pressure is good

if so how would I find the live data values menu
as I did briefly try it the other day with inpa but when you tried to crank the engine inpa sends a error

regarding injector pulse voltage is this checked with multi meter or can it be checked by ista D also

thanks
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24-03-2019, 00:56 AM,
Post: #17
RE: How to work out which zb to flash for used ecu without orginal ecu
"when you tried to crank the engine inpa sends a error" battery low maybe....

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24-03-2019, 14:33 PM,
Post: #18
RE: How to work out which zb to flash for used ecu without orginal ecu
(24-03-2019, 00:56 AM)____ANGEL___ Wrote:  "when you tried to crank the engine inpa sends a error" battery low maybe....

managed to get some live figures

one is higher rail pressure reading is with the engine being cranked

lower reading is with ignition on full without cranking engine


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24-03-2019, 17:01 PM,
Post: #19
RE: How to work out which zb to flash for used ecu without orginal ecu
ista says, when an injector or more are faulty, there is possibility of all injectors will be disalimented by DDE, try disconnecting one by one... there is a lot to check...

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