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Auto PDC on BMW F Series
14-04-2019, 06:56 AM,
Post: #11
RE: Auto PDC on BMW F Series
(13-04-2019, 17:57 PM)simonchs Wrote:  
(13-04-2019, 17:13 PM)Alexandru.k_24 Wrote:  
(13-04-2019, 05:15 AM)simonchs Wrote:  
(12-04-2019, 11:35 AM)Alexandru.k_24 Wrote:  Ok, my car is a F20(2012) and it doesn't have AutoPDC. It automatically turns on the sensors when putting the gear lever in reverse, but that's all. The car is equipped with PMA2 ecu. It has the auto parking feature. It also has the Kafas camera and collision assist feature.

Which gen of PMA you have? For F20, you will need gen2 to work with Auto PDC
gen1: 6 front sensors + 4 rear sensors
gen2: 6 front sensors + 6 rear sensors
I have 6 front sensors and 4 rear sensors. Than means that i have PMA gen 1 ECU. Strange thing is that ESYS listed my ecu as PMA2. Do you have a part number for PMA 2 ecu? Where is located in the car? Thank you.

Yes, e-sys show the ecu name PMA2 for both gen1 and gen2.
It’s 66337938190 on my F20 LCI for PMA2 gen2.
The ecu is behind the right trunk trim, you will need to remove the trim to access it.
Is it easy to retrofit? Do i need to change the jbbf also? Do i need to install those 2 extra sensors on the rear? Or is "plug and play" and coding with esys?
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14-04-2019, 15:58 PM,
Post: #12
RE: Auto PDC on BMW F Series
(14-04-2019, 06:56 AM)Alexandru.k_24 Wrote:  
(13-04-2019, 17:57 PM)simonchs Wrote:  
(13-04-2019, 17:13 PM)Alexandru.k_24 Wrote:  
(13-04-2019, 05:15 AM)simonchs Wrote:  
(12-04-2019, 11:35 AM)Alexandru.k_24 Wrote:  Ok, my car is a F20(2012) and it doesn't have AutoPDC. It automatically turns on the sensors when putting the gear lever in reverse, but that's all. The car is equipped with PMA2 ecu. It has the auto parking feature. It also has the Kafas camera and collision assist feature.

Which gen of PMA you have? For F20, you will need gen2 to work with Auto PDC
gen1: 6 front sensors + 4 rear sensors
gen2: 6 front sensors + 6 rear sensors
I have 6 front sensors and 4 rear sensors. Than means that i have PMA gen 1 ECU. Strange thing is that ESYS listed my ecu as PMA2. Do you have a part number for PMA 2 ecu? Where is located in the car? Thank you.

Yes, e-sys show the ecu name PMA2 for both gen1 and gen2.
It’s 66337938190 on my F20 LCI for PMA2 gen2.
The ecu is behind the right trunk trim, you will need to remove the trim to access it.
Is it easy to retrofit? Do i need to change the jbbf also? Do i need to install those 2 extra sensors on the rear? Or is "plug and play" and coding with esys?

I have a thread here that tells you all the parts you need for an F10 retrofit of PMA for park assist.


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14-04-2019, 19:30 PM,
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RE: Auto PDC on BMW F Series
(14-04-2019, 06:56 AM)Alexandru.k_24 Wrote:  Is it easy to retrofit? Do i need to change the jbbf also? Do i need to install those 2 extra sensors on the rear? Or is "plug and play" and coding with esys?

It should be relatively easier to do gen2 retrofit as you are already having gen1.
You need to install 2 extra rear sensors, otherwise you will get fault.
There are no JBBF on F20, what I can imagine are update REM to newer i-step (at least after the birth of LCI)
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15-04-2019, 04:59 AM,
Post: #14
RE: Auto PDC on BMW F Series
(14-04-2019, 19:30 PM)simonchs Wrote:  
(14-04-2019, 06:56 AM)Alexandru.k_24 Wrote:  Is it easy to retrofit? Do i need to change the jbbf also? Do i need to install those 2 extra sensors on the rear? Or is "plug and play" and coding with esys?

It should be relatively easier to do gen2 retrofit as you are already having gen1.
You need to install 2 extra rear sensors, otherwise you will get fault.
There are no JBBF on F20, what I can imagine are update REM to newer i-step (at least after the birth of LCI)
2 sensors and PMA ecu is not that difficult to do. What would be the bennefits of gen2 vs gen1 beside AutoPDC?
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15-04-2019, 10:30 AM,
Post: #15
RE: Auto PDC on BMW F Series
(15-04-2019, 04:59 AM)Alexandru.k_24 Wrote:  
(14-04-2019, 19:30 PM)simonchs Wrote:  
(14-04-2019, 06:56 AM)Alexandru.k_24 Wrote:  Is it easy to retrofit? Do i need to change the jbbf also? Do i need to install those 2 extra sensors on the rear? Or is "plug and play" and coding with esys?

It should be relatively easier to do gen2 retrofit as you are already having gen1.
You need to install 2 extra rear sensors, otherwise you will get fault.
There are no JBBF on F20, what I can imagine are update REM to newer i-step (at least after the birth of LCI)
2 sensors and PMA ecu is not that difficult to do. What would be the bennefits of gen2 vs gen1 beside AutoPDC?

For gen2, you will also get both horizontal and vertical park assist
   

and 360 distance sensor
   
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03-03-2022, 04:35 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-03-2022, 21:48 PM by sangria.)
Post: #16
RE: Auto PDC on BMW F Series
Hello guys, I am trying to retrofit Active PDC on my F85. I have PMA2 and parking assist with Auto PDC + 5AT and 5AR. NBT shows PDC_GENERATION --> gen1. Do you guys know if additional 2 sensor on rear will activate Active PDC with braking ?

I have total of 10 sensor. 6 Front 4 Rear. And as far as i understand i need 2 extra rear sensor for this to work. Does the bumper even has pre mark for this? If so what is the part number for this 2 sensor ? I have found this 2 different P/N (66209274427, 66209274428)

Additionally Even tho my module says PMA2 i have looked for an option 3030 PdcHmi > SDW_enable and it was not there. I assume my PMA2 actually gen1 not gen2.

I have tried this settings :

ICM :
C_aPDC_vorhanden -- aktiv

PMA2 :
a_pdc wert_01
apdc_activation wert_01
ausgabe_apdc :wert_01 (was already set)

NBT2 :
ACTIVE_PDC
PDC_FLANKENSCHUTZ
MACRO_PMA_EINPARKEN > (gen2_ohne_konf was already set)
PDC_GEN : gen1

and  i do believe SAS also has something to do with this but even tho i extend the PDC range i never was able to see 360 PDC range , it did extend the PDC range wider but not the level of being 360. And extended part was not getting any response.

I had the option for Active PDC with breaking but was not clickable. I later on realize SAS only accessable when car is running and never try to code the option there but i would like to get some opinion before i start over again. Thank you.


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04-03-2022, 05:21 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-03-2022, 05:57 AM by sangria.)
Post: #17
RE: Auto PDC on BMW F Series
(12-04-2019, 11:35 AM)Alexandru.k_24 Wrote:  Ok, my car is a F20(2012) and it doesn't have AutoPDC. It automatically turns on the sensors when putting the gear lever in reverse, but that's all. The car is equipped with PMA2 ecu. It has the auto parking feature. It also has the Kafas camera and collision assist feature.

I have PMA2 Gen1 (6F+4R) on my 17' F85 and Auto PDC works and turns on 360 camera with a bird view when i approach to an object either forward or reverse driving. I am just missing the Active PDC which requires gen 2 pma with 2 rear sensor. But the PMA2 gen1 sensor on F2x,F3x looks quiet different than F1x,F85/6.

F85 PMA2 being different than F30 PMA2 , made me look into CAFD of mine and i do see different values than F30 PMA2.

I am seeing actually that also gives option for the rear 2 additional Sensors. But the parameters has only one thing to select and it is initwert which makes werte 0. Front Sensors showing all 6 sensor Value . So the PMA2 i have even tho came with the 4 rear sensor seems like capable of working with the additional 2 sensor. I just dont have the option for SDW_Enable. I wonder it is called something different on this CAFD_0000146B_036_003_005.

[Image: screenshot-5145.png]

And Side Sectors not active here :

[Image: screenshot-5147.png]
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05-03-2022, 03:53 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-03-2022, 21:21 PM by sangria.)
Post: #18
RE: Auto PDC on BMW F Series
I think i have found the options on my PMA2 and this parameters can activate the Active PDC with side PDC option. I have not seen any 17 LCI X5 or X6 with this option like they did on F30 LCIs. ANd wiring diagram i believe quiet different than F30 PMA Gen2. And when i check the G11/G30 PMAs they actually come with single socket and it is called PMA High. Does anyone ever seen F series X5/6 with 360 PDC view option ?

[Image: screenshot-5159.png]

As my research goes, All X1, X2, X3, X4, X5, X6 with PMA module came with single connector 18 pin PMA_15. And the one came with 5DP uses all 18 pin. I also looked at mine and all 18 pins are in place. So it is impossible to add 2 side sensor on rear bumber. But what i found on one of the X4 series was there is an option for Parking Assist that uses a PMA with 36 pin, Each side has 18 pin connector.

It never actually shows in the wiring diagram but one of the functional description shows there it is possible to use this module to gain 12 sensor installation here.

If i get the F30 PMA2 then i have to re pin all the 18 cable i have in the plus and divide them in 2 socket. The problem is HWEL numbers are completely different so i can not flash them and i probably gonna have some issues since F30 PMA most probably does not contain F15/F85 dimensions stored.

Another possible option is to get G05 PMA High with 26 pin, but the problem will be similiar since HWELs are different. I cant believe there is no X series introduced with All around PDC!
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07-03-2022, 23:51 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-03-2022, 23:51 PM by sangria.)
Post: #19
RE: Auto PDC on BMW F Series
Can someone check PMA2 Gen2 Header for me please ?

Mine listed like this :

[Image: screenshot-5195.png]
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