[TokenMaster]

I've long been thinking on setting up coding on bench, just never had time to look into it. I have NBT, CID, KOMBI, IHKA, TBX, ZBE and emulator. I can put all these things together, but I know the whole thing would not power up until I add the required components.

What other parts do I need? FEM? Can someone point me in the right direction, links, stuff to buy (eBay or parts ID), wiring diagram...etc.

Just wanna try a few things quickly. Thanks in advance

[kuldip1]

I've long been thinking on setting up coding on bench, just never had time to look into it. I have NBT, CID, KOMBI, IHKA, TBX, ZBE and emulator. I can put all these things together, but I know the whole thing would not power up until I add the required components.

What other parts do I need? FEM? Can someone point me in the right direction, links, stuff to buy (eBay or parts ID), wiring diagram...etc.

Just wanna try a few things quickly. Thanks in advance

hi i found some things  out please let  me know please how you geton 
thank you 
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-NBT-NBT-E...2940715683

[Stromag]

I've long been thinking on setting up coding on bench, just never had time to look into it. I have NBT, CID, KOMBI, IHKA, TBX, ZBE and emulator. I can put all these things together, but I know the whole thing would not power up until I add the required components.

What other parts do I need? FEM? Can someone point me in the right direction, links, stuff to buy (eBay or parts ID), wiring diagram...etc.

Just wanna try a few things quickly. Thanks in advance

ZGW

[Lux]

I've long been thinking on setting up coding on bench, just never had time to look into it. I have NBT, CID, KOMBI, IHKA, TBX, ZBE and emulator. I can put all these things together, but I know the whole thing would not power up until I add the required components.

What other parts do I need? FEM? Can someone point me in the right direction, links, stuff to buy (eBay or parts ID), wiring diagram...etc.

Just wanna try a few things quickly. Thanks in advance

hi i found some things  out please let  me know please how you geton 
thank you 
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-NBT-NBT-E...2940715683

Yes the wiring it's required; all that ecu are enough to do a lot of test. 

[simzep]

I'm in the process of doing the same atm.

You need a can adapter and send two messages ten times a second with 500k and don't forget the 120Ohm termination on both sides: 

Code:

static tCAN message1;

   message1.id = 0x130; //formatted in HEX
   message1.header.rtr = 0;
   message1.header.length = 5; //formatted in DEC
   message1.data[0] = 0x45;
   message1.data[1] = 0x40;
   message1.data[2] = 0x22; //formatted in HEX
   message1.data[3] = 0x8F;
   message1.data[4] = 0xFE;

   static tCAN message2;

   message2.id = 0x12F; //formatted in HEX
   message2.header.rtr = 0;
   message2.header.length = 8; //formatted in DEC
   message2.data[0] = 0x37;
   message2.data[1] = 0x7C;
   message2.data[2] = 0x8A;
   message2.data[3] = 0xDD; //formatted in HEX
   message2.data[4] = 0xD4;
   message2.data[5] = 0x05;
   message2.data[6] = 0x33;
   message2.data[7] = 0x06;

I'm using a SparkFun Can shield on an ardiuino.

If you want to flash you will need a zgw/zgw preferred 4sk or 8sk (Important: Change the ZGW vin to the desired NBT vin or it will lock.)

As a PSU just get an old PC Power Supply all components use 12V anyways.

Just get a quadlock extension like this and cut it for the main connection.

Interesting links and part numbers in no particular order:

Code:

http://www.bmw-etk.info/teile-katalog/prd/BMW/VT/P/F01/Lim/740dX/ECE/L/A/2011/01/52541/61/61_2350/61359322532 ZGW connectors

61139299610 OABR Connector
61119374919 OABR pins

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VVf_BRHoAIg/V9-JmHsfKWI/AAAAAAAADUg/j2BfH_SfweMzCrVqMvFK2h7AtuZ7Tig7QCEw/s1600/NBT-EVO-coding-cable.jpg OABR wiring

https://www.develektro.com/Produktpalette_3246 ZGW stuff

can wiring https://www.e90post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1969408&d=1547137226

OABR to ATM wiring

Code:

OABR socket:
61139299610
OABR pins:
61139230105
pinout:
evo side:
2: ETH ATM RX-
4: ETH ATM RX+
8: ETH ATM S
17: ETH CODING TX+ to RJ45 pin 1 and/or OBD2 pin 12
18: ETH CODING RX+ to RJ45 pin 3 and/or OBD2 pin 3
19: ETH CODING TX- to RJ45 pin 2 and/or OBD2 pin 13
20: ETH CODING RX- to RJ45 pin 6 and/or OBD2 pin 11
atm side:
2 - ETH + to evo pin 4
3 - ETH S to evo pin 8
4 - ETH - to evo pin 2
7 - KCAN2 High to retrofit adapter KCAN2 lines
9 - KCAN2 Low to retrofit adapter KCAN2 lines
Passthrough mic, bmw assist:
15 - Mic + to head unit quadlock 17
16 - Mic - to head unit quadlock 22
17 - Mic S to head unit quadlock 33
18 - Mic S to microphone
19 - Mic - to microphone
20 - Mic + to microphone

54pin connector:
48 -> KCAN H on NBT
49 -> KCAN L on NBT

18pin connector:
9 -> OABR 18 (RX+)
11 -> OABR 17 (TX+)
12 -> OABR 19 (TX-)
13 -> Quadlock 29 (ETH-A)
18 -> OABR 20 (RX-)

[Stromag]

I'm in the process of doing the same atm.

You need a can adapter and send two messages ten times a second: 

Code:

static tCAN message1;

   message1.id = 0x130; //formatted in HEX
   message1.header.rtr = 0;
   message1.header.length = 5; //formatted in DEC
   message1.data[0] = 0x45;
   message1.data[1] = 0x40;
   message1.data[2] = 0x22; //formatted in HEX
   message1.data[3] = 0x8F;
   message1.data[4] = 0xFE;

   static tCAN message2;

   message2.id = 0x12F; //formatted in HEX
   message2.header.rtr = 0;
   message2.header.length = 8; //formatted in DEC
   message2.data[0] = 0x37;
   message2.data[1] = 0x7C;
   message2.data[2] = 0x8A;
   message2.data[3] = 0xDD; //formatted in HEX
   message2.data[4] = 0xD4;
   message2.data[5] = 0x05;
   message2.data[6] = 0x33;
   message2.data[7] = 0x06;

I'm using a SparkFun Can shield on an ardiuino.

If you want to flash you will need a zgw/zgw preferred 4sk or 8sk (Important: Change the ZGW vin to the desired NBT vin or it will lock.)

As a PSU just get an old PC Power Supply all components use 12V anyways.

Just get a quadlock extension like this and cut it for the main connection.

Interesting links and part numbers in no particular order:

Code:

http://www.bmw-etk.info/teile-katalog/prd/BMW/VT/P/F01/Lim/740dX/ECE/L/A/2011/01/52541/61/61_2350/61359322532 ZGW connectors

61139299610 OABR Connector
61119374919 OABR pins

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VVf_BRHoAIg/V9-JmHsfKWI/AAAAAAAADUg/j2BfH_SfweMzCrVqMvFK2h7AtuZ7Tig7QCEw/s1600/NBT-EVO-coding-cable.jpg OABR wiring

https://www.develektro.com/Produktpalette_3246 ZGW stuff

In my ZGW is a different VIN than in the NBT.  And it was never locked

[simzep]

In my ZGW is a different VIN than in the NBT.  And it was never locked

Yeah it's the evo that locks up the normal nbt does not have the component pretection afaik.

[TokenMaster]

I have a PSU ready to use. I'm not planning on flashing immediately, but it's not out of the realm of possibilities, as I do have a broken NBT somewhere.

I do have a ZGW-02 8SK, but I think it's broken, so will source out a new one. I was given a part# 9284421 for ZGW-02 MId.

so, I have to dabble with CAN messages. I think I can manage that with with USB-CAN or even ELM, or maybe not. I'm just thinking of possible solution at this time.

Thanks for everyone's help, so far. Please keep 'em coming, if there's anything more to learn

[simzep]

some more can bus codes:

http://www.loopybunny.co.uk/CarPC/filter...flag_KCAN2

[Hoborg]

For ignition You need CAS or FEM or CANbridge module , other parts You have..