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Bench Coding - Need help on required components
20-07-2019, 16:52 PM,
Post: #21
RE: Bench Coding - Need help on required components
I am using NBT and NBTEVO with a USB canvas adapter made in China using the wake up signal and running on the bench.
Similarly, can CIC(E60) be bench activated only with USB canvas adapter?
Do I need other modules?
Please let me know if you know the start signal.
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30-08-2019, 17:48 PM,
Post: #22
RE: Bench Coding - Need help on required components
Witch ZGW is the best choice in Your opinion?
ZGW-01 Mid
ZGW-01 High
ZGW-02 Mid
ZGW-01 Mid Plus
ZGW-02 4SK
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30-08-2019, 19:35 PM,
Post: #23
RE: Bench Coding - Need help on required components
ZGW-02 8SK is it ok?

Here are all the ZGW-02 8SK part numbers I found:
9286949, 9354755, 9299591, 9393659, 9321878, 9372743, 9340521, 9380322
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31-08-2019, 06:46 AM,
Post: #24
RE: Bench Coding - Need help on required components
4sk 8sk are for NBT/NBT Evo. CIC won't work with these.
CIC will work with everything else.
Part number is irrelevant. Any will do
So if you want to service nbt and cic you will need 2 ZGW
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31-08-2019, 08:31 AM,
Post: #25
RE: Bench Coding - Need help on required components
(31-08-2019, 06:46 AM)bmwcoder75 Wrote:  4sk 8sk are for NBT/NBT Evo. CIC won't work with these.
CIC will work with everything else.
Part number is irrelevant. Any will do
So if you want to service nbt and cic you will need 2 ZGW


No, ZGW-02-MID can be used for CIC or NBT.
Flash back and forth, Flash takes 2 minutes.
Flashing for CIC on ZGW-02-MID, flashing for NBT on ZGW2- (4SK) ..

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01-09-2019, 14:59 PM,
Post: #26
RE: Bench Coding - Need help on required components
(31-08-2019, 08:31 AM)Stromag Wrote:  
(31-08-2019, 06:46 AM)bmwcoder75 Wrote:  4sk 8sk are for NBT/NBT Evo. CIC won't work with these.
CIC will work with everything else.
Part number is irrelevant. Any will do
So if you want to service nbt and cic you will need 2 ZGW


No, ZGW-02-MID can be used for CIC or NBT.
Flash back and forth, Flash takes 2 minutes.
Flashing for CIC on ZGW-02-MID, flashing for NBT on ZGW2- (4SK) ..

Isn't flashing ZGW possible back and forth with any version? I've read that it is possible to flash ZGW-01 to ZGW-02. I thought that besides firmware they have also hardware differences...
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01-09-2019, 15:41 PM,
Post: #27
RE: Bench Coding - Need help on required components
(24-06-2019, 18:52 PM)simzep Wrote:  I'm in the process of doing the same atm.

You need a can adapter and send two messages ten times a second with 500k and don't forget the 120Ohm termination on both sides: 


Code:
static tCAN message1;

   message1.id = 0x130; //formatted in HEX
   message1.header.rtr = 0;
   message1.header.length = 5; //formatted in DEC
   message1.data[0] = 0x45;
   message1.data[1] = 0x40;
   message1.data[2] = 0x22; //formatted in HEX
   message1.data[3] = 0x8F;
   message1.data[4] = 0xFE;

   static tCAN message2;

   message2.id = 0x12F; //formatted in HEX
   message2.header.rtr = 0;
   message2.header.length = 8; //formatted in DEC
   message2.data[0] = 0x37;
   message2.data[1] = 0x7C;
   message2.data[2] = 0x8A;
   message2.data[3] = 0xDD; //formatted in HEX
   message2.data[4] = 0xD4;
   message2.data[5] = 0x05;
   message2.data[6] = 0x33;
   message2.data[7] = 0x06;

I'm using a SparkFun Can shield on an ardiuino.

If you want to flash you will need a zgw/zgw preferred 4sk or 8sk (Important: Change the ZGW vin to the desired NBT vin or it will lock.)

As a PSU just get an old PC Power Supply all components use 12V anyways.

Just get a quadlock extension like this and cut it for the main connection.

Interesting links and part numbers in no particular order:

Code:
http://www.bmw-etk.info/teile-katalog/prd/BMW/VT/P/F01/Lim/740dX/ECE/L/A/2011/01/52541/61/61_2350/61359322532 ZGW connectors

61139299610 OABR Connector
61119374919 OABR pins

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VVf_BRHoAIg/V9-JmHsfKWI/AAAAAAAADUg/j2BfH_SfweMzCrVqMvFK2h7AtuZ7Tig7QCEw/s1600/NBT-EVO-coding-cable.jpg OABR wiring

https://www.develektro.com/Produktpalette_3246 ZGW stuff

can wiring https://www.e90post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1969408&d=1547137226

OABR to ATM wiring
Code:
OABR socket:
61139299610
OABR pins:
61139230105
pinout:
evo side:
2: ETH ATM RX-
4: ETH ATM RX+
8: ETH ATM S
17: ETH CODING TX+ to RJ45 pin 1 and/or OBD2 pin 12
18: ETH CODING RX+ to RJ45 pin 3 and/or OBD2 pin 3
19: ETH CODING TX- to RJ45 pin 2 and/or OBD2 pin 13
20: ETH CODING RX- to RJ45 pin 6 and/or OBD2 pin 11
atm side:
2 - ETH + to evo pin 4
3 - ETH S to evo pin 8
4 - ETH - to evo pin 2
7 - KCAN2 High to retrofit adapter KCAN2 lines
9 - KCAN2 Low to retrofit adapter KCAN2 lines
Passthrough mic, bmw assist:
15 - Mic + to head unit quadlock 17
16 - Mic - to head unit quadlock 22
17 - Mic S to head unit quadlock 33
18 - Mic S to microphone
19 - Mic - to microphone
20 - Mic + to microphone

54pin connector:
48 -> KCAN H on NBT
49 -> KCAN L on NBT

18pin connector:
9 -> OABR 18 (RX+)
11 -> OABR 17 (TX+)
12 -> OABR 19 (TX-)
13 -> Quadlock 29 (ETH-A)
18 -> OABR 20 (RX-)

hi...I would like do it with canShield...could U show full skrech for arduino and wiring ?
BR
is it proper sketch ?


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05-09-2019, 15:03 PM,
Post: #28
RE: Bench Coding - Need help on required components
Hi, here is the Arduino coding I use taken from different examples. In the attached 
text file are links to some of the hardware required...hopefully this info can help.


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05-09-2019, 21:27 PM,
Post: #29
RE: Bench Coding - Need help on required components
I've simply used an Omitec cable directly to modules' canbus for coding on desk. Esys has Omitec support, so that's probably why it was easy.

Obviously not all modules will work easily, but if you use a canbus interface like a Vector, that would work as well.
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06-09-2019, 07:24 AM,
Post: #30
RE: Bench Coding - Need help on required components
(24-06-2019, 17:10 PM)TokenMaster Wrote:  I've long been thinking on setting up coding on bench, just never had time to look into it. I have NBT, CID, KOMBI, IHKA, TBX, ZBE and emulator. I can put all these things together, but I know the whole thing would not power up until I add the required components.

What other parts do I need? FEM? Can someone point me in the right direction, links, stuff to buy (eBay or parts ID), wiring diagram...etc.

Just wanna try a few things quickly. Thanks in advance

I had an NBT Evo up and running with only power, and an Arduino with can shield sending wakeup messages.

Only thing I found out, is that I had to send them with 1000kbps and not 500 to get it working.

NBT Evo could be seen with E-sys and FDL/FSC coding could be done.

/Weebyx
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