[kimetp]

Sorry for this stupid question

Any one have programed all car with istap with enet cable successful
its safe to do it with enet cable

because i want to program all car but i'm scared

BMW F10 530DX

[Spirit5676]

Sorry for this stupid question

Any one have programed all car with istap with enet cable successful
its safe to do it with enet cable

because i want to program all car but i'm scared

BMW F10 530DX

Why would you want to program F10 with ISTAP? If you want to update the car to latest software use E-sys. Any recent ISTAP version won't support F-series. This has been the case for a awhile now. Why you want to update the car? Updating car is risky even with the right equipment. Do you have a proper power supply?

[kimetp]

Yes i have power supply

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How can i update to lates version with esys can you help me

And i want to ask what is differenc enet cable and icom what cant to do with enet cable

[Node]

ICOM is a separate computer which handles all protocols itself and has connection to a car through multiple busses (D-CAN, K-CAN, ENET) at the same time. It also has internal measurement for car voltage, etc.

F10 is able to talk via D-CAN and ENET. Strictly speaking both of these are connected to ZGM which then "translates" messages and forward to other units in a car via appropriate buses. As long as your ZGM is functioning properly there is no difference. However ENET bus needs much more complicate software to run, and early ZGMs do have issues to be programmed over this bus (you can use search on this forum to find workarounds).

So basically, ICOM can monitor car voltage, ignition status and other things itself and stop communication with a car if prerequisites are not met. ENET cable will pump data to a car in any case. If your power supply has ample amperage to keep constant car voltage, this may not be an issue.

As Spirit said flashing a car is always a risk. Its just smaller (and potentially easier recoverable) with the right tools.

I personally prefer ISTA+ for flashing because its "run and enjoy". It knows which units need to be programmed with ignition on and which with it off. It also runs all required initializations afterwards. With E-Sys you more or less need to know all of that yourself and do manually. But when flashing fails seriously, E-Sys is the only tool to do recovery.

[laso]

ICOM is a separate computer which handles all protocols itself and has connection to a car through multiple busses (D-CAN, K-CAN, ENET) at the same time. It also has internal measurement for car voltage, etc.

F10 is able to talk via D-CAN and ENET. Strictly speaking both of these are connected to ZGM which then "translates" messages and forward to other units in a car via appropriate buses. As long as your ZGM is functioning properly there is no difference. However ENET bus needs much more complicate software to run, and early ZGMs do have issues to be programmed over this bus (you can use search on this forum to find workarounds).

So basically, ICOM can monitor car voltage, ignition status and other things itself and stop communication with a car if prerequisites are not met. ENET cable will pump data to a car in any case. If your power supply has ample amperage to keep constant car voltage, this may not be an issue.

As Spirit said flashing a car is always a risk. Its just smaller (and potentially easier recoverable) with the right tools.

I personally prefer ISTA+ for flashing because its "run and enjoy". It knows which units need to be programmed with ignition on and which with it off. It also runs all required initializations afterwards. With E-Sys you more or less need to know all of that yourself and do manually. But when flashing fails seriously, E-Sys is the only tool to do recovery.

But I have a problem with configuration ISTA+ for progromming F series.
I have a Standalone version and full psdzdata.
Maybe can you help how configuration my register

[Node]

I do not have ENET cable so can't help. But I think I saw somewhere that at least latest standalones by Sedoy do work with ENET cables. Can't guarantee that though.

[laso]

I have ICOM but ISTA not work

[Node]

How? What happens?

[kimetp]

ICOM is a separate computer which handles all protocols itself and has connection to a car through multiple busses (D-CAN, K-CAN, ENET) at the same time. It also has internal measurement for car voltage, etc.

F10 is able to talk via D-CAN and ENET. Strictly speaking both of these are connected to ZGM which then "translates" messages and forward to other units in a car via appropriate buses. As long as your ZGM is functioning properly there is no difference. However ENET bus needs much more complicate software to run, and early ZGMs do have issues to be programmed over this bus (you can use search on this forum to find workarounds).

So basically, ICOM can monitor car voltage, ignition status and other things itself and stop communication with a car if prerequisites are not met. ENET cable will pump data to a car in any case. If your power supply has ample amperage to keep constant car voltage, this may not be an issue.

As Spirit said flashing a car is always a risk. Its just smaller (and potentially easier recoverable) with the right tools.

I personally prefer ISTA+ for flashing because its "run and enjoy". It knows which units need to be programmed with ignition on and which with it off. It also runs all required initializations afterwards. With E-Sys you more or less need to know all of that yourself and do manually. But when flashing fails seriously, E-Sys is the only tool to do recovery.

Do you mean ista p because i think ista+ is not for programming just diagnostic ?

[DayvG]

ICOM is a separate computer which handles all protocols itself and has connection to a car through multiple busses (D-CAN, K-CAN, ENET) at the same time. It also has internal measurement for car voltage, etc.

F10 is able to talk via D-CAN and ENET. Strictly speaking both of these are connected to ZGM which then "translates" messages and forward to other units in a car via appropriate buses. As long as your ZGM is functioning properly there is no difference. However ENET bus needs much more complicate software to run, and early ZGMs do have issues to be programmed over this bus (you can use search on this forum to find workarounds).

So basically, ICOM can monitor car voltage, ignition status and other things itself and stop communication with a car if prerequisites are not met. ENET cable will pump data to a car in any case. If your power supply has ample amperage to keep constant car voltage, this may not be an issue.

As Spirit said flashing a car is always a risk. Its just smaller (and potentially easier recoverable) with the right tools.

I personally prefer ISTA+ for flashing because its "run and enjoy". It knows which units need to be programmed with ignition on and which with it off. It also runs all required initializations afterwards. With E-Sys you more or less need to know all of that yourself and do manually. But when flashing fails seriously, E-Sys is the only tool to do recovery.

Do you mean ista p because i think ista+ is not for programming just diagnostic ?

ISTA+ is for programming and diagnostics. However many people prefer E-Sys for flashing ECU's especially with retrofitted components. 

I can provide admin licenses for a cleaner easier to update version of ISTA+