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Remote control Peugeot Partner does not work
12-10-2019, 18:51 PM,
Post: #1
PPeugeot  Remote control Peugeot Partner does not work
Hello

I am trying to generate a remote control for Peugeot Partner year 2002, I generate the key with PP2000 without a problem, and the boot works fine, but then the remote control does nothing, I follow the instructions as the program tells me and it does not work, they do nothing buttons.

The original is 433 ASK and the new one is 433 ASK too, but I don't get it to work
 The new the old always works.
Antique Key: PCF7936
ID46
Freq: 433 ASK

New
PCF 7961
ID46
Freq: 433 ASK

Attached photo so you can see that they are the same.

Can anybody help me?

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12-10-2019, 19:02 PM,
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RE: Remote control Peugeot Partner does not work
Somethong wrong freind
If the old one os pcf7936 or 46 ?
If 7936 that mean carbon external not electronic transponder
If 7946 that mean electronic transponder and you need key with same
7961 should work but if it not work you need same as original to can make remote work

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12-10-2019, 19:10 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-10-2019, 19:16 PM by marcoa.)
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RE: Remote control Peugeot Partner does not work
(12-10-2019, 19:02 PM)raffy haddad Wrote:  Somethong wrong freind
If the old one os pcf7936 or 46 ?
If 7936 that mean carbon external not electronic transponder
If 7946 that mean electronic transponder and you need key with same
7961 should work but if it not work you need same as original to can make remote work

Hello

I have ID46, PCF7936, does it mean to mount and register a key with that type of transponder?

And so should the remote work once synchronized with Peugeot Partner?

Thank you
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12-10-2019, 20:35 PM,
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RE: Remote control Peugeot Partner does not work
Original remote key should be Pcf 7936-separate from remote electronic. When programming transponder in the same time programming remote. After programming, you should wait about a minute, then manualy sync remote(hold lock button 5-10seconds with ignition on). But, you need apropriate remote. Or, if you have Keydiy device or something similiar, should generate remote with electronic coil and try.
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13-10-2019, 06:23 AM, (This post was last modified: 13-10-2019, 06:27 AM by raffy haddad.)
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RE: Remote control Peugeot Partner does not work
Can you post good picture of old key pcb And data reading
Never see pcf7936 electronic
Did you try to put new key in ign turn on press any button 3 times? Or keep pressing for 10 second
Then remove key open close door test remote

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13-10-2019, 17:12 PM, (This post was last modified: 13-10-2019, 17:21 PM by zmann.)
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RE: Remote control Peugeot Partner does not work
The PSA remotes by Valeo of this period (~year 2001 - year 2006 ?) always make people/users problem and confusion.

I hope to write it short smile, there are two levels of problem that cause the remote not working...

1) The chip is not original (remote + PCF7936, genuine or China)
The chip and the remote have been paired from factory. When programming PSA remote key the system performs three activities, Firstly read chip ID (IDE) and save to BSI for immo. Read remote ID and save to BSI, the remote ID has been writen to the chip on USER0 and USER1 (the chip data format) from the remote factory. Lastly, locking the chip.

Remedy when the chip is not original to the remote> none!

2) The remote is not of the vehicle model
When inventing those remotes PSA followed the standard of RKE/rolling code system. One of the matters is that the remotes always send data message of two parts, remote ID (rolling code) and network ID or Code (plain text) when transmitting. And PSA tie the network ID to a vehicle model. This means that in all Partner remotes they always send same network ID but not to other vehicle model remotes. Only the correct network ID message sent can be recognised by the BSI.

How to know if the remote is of which vehicle model (network ID)> there might be no ready tool on the market ? but there is some info to build it found on other forum.     
 
Remedy when the remote is not of the correct model> the solution not always exist but on some BSI model there is an option to configure this part. Btw I cannot say much on Partner BSI but hope the op going to the BSI configuration then the locking option (similarly to the image) and post how many options found. My image shows the "High freq remote control transmitter type" of 069A (the network ID) which is of Berlingo and Partner share the same ID. But this is Citroen, Peugeot SW might be worse.

Bottom line: In all remotes with Hitag II chip (PCF7936 - ori, PCF7941 or 7961 - China) they will be and can be working when the two criteria above are met. As well as modulation mode and transmitting freq.  

Pressing remote button trick is only applicable for the working remote. It is to re-align the rolling code counter with the BSI when both are out of synchronisation e.g. newly programmed remote, replacing battery and too many press shots without vehicle!


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