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CIC programming KL30 & KL15 cycling on and off with IP set to most
21-08-2022, 13:47 PM,
Post: #1
CIC programming KL30 & KL15 cycling on and off with IP set to most
I want to update a CIC and connected most adapter and icom next. Most adapter is clone and used to work with Icom A. Set ediabas to Most Async. In inpa I can see ignition  and power cycling on and off so can't program. Any leads what could be causing this? Ista works just fine but istap complains about most being offline. As would be expected.
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09-09-2022, 12:56 PM,
Post: #2
RE: Terminal 30 and ignition cycling on and off on inpa most E90
Not resolved yet!! I may try connect this CIC in bench direct and see.
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09-09-2022, 12:59 PM,
Post: #3
RE: Terminal 30 and ignition cycling on and off on inpa most E90
does ISTA show the ignition on/off status correctly? if not i think you have an interface defect or measure the voltage pin on OBD. maybe a bad connection or cable


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18-09-2022, 14:15 PM,
Post: #4
RE: Terminal 30 and ignition cycling on and off on inpa most E90
Ignition ok in ista. Only happens when I switch to remote most option in ediabas. Tried another icom and it's the same. Never experienced this. Thinking of removing the CIC and connecting on bench.
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20-09-2022, 13:25 PM,
Post: #5
RE: CIC programming KL30 & KL15 cycling on and off with IP set to most
I have tested with another ICOM. Exactly the same behaviour and only on most protocol. Any other protocol is stable.

Has anyone ever tried programming the CIC over diagnosis bus? Might be my only remaining option if I must update it.
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20-09-2022, 13:37 PM,
Post: #6
RE: CIC programming KL30 & KL15 cycling on and off with IP set to most
I understand neither of what are you doing nor what are you trying to do.

Are you trying to use ISTA-P or WinKFP or what?

If you set ISTA+ to ediabas, it won't try to detect ignition at all, unless you use some kind of voltage fix (like my solution). ICOM or not.
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21-09-2022, 06:04 AM,
Post: #7
RE: CIC programming KL30 & KL15 cycling on and off with IP set to most
(20-09-2022, 13:37 PM)Node Wrote:  I understand neither of what are you doing nor what are you trying to do.

Are you trying to use ISTA-P or WinKFP or what?

If you set ISTA+ to ediabas, it won't try to detect ignition at all, unless you use some kind of voltage fix (like my solution). ICOM or not.

I want to update the CIC with winkfp. ISTAP wont work, complains about MOST error and demands animation.

Of course because it sees the connection drop. When I switch to Most_Async or any other most protocol and check in inpa KL30 and KL15, I can see it turning on and off at few second intervals forever. I have never seen this behavour before. I will try remove the MULF and see if it is the cause.
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21-09-2022, 09:31 AM,
Post: #8
RE: CIC programming KL30 & KL15 cycling on and off with IP set to most
(21-09-2022, 06:04 AM)willisodhiambo Wrote:  
(20-09-2022, 13:37 PM)Node Wrote:  I understand neither of what are you doing nor what are you trying to do.

Are you trying to use ISTA-P or WinKFP or what?

If you set ISTA+ to ediabas, it won't try to detect ignition at all, unless you use some kind of voltage fix (like my solution). ICOM or not.

I want to update the CIC with winkfp. ISTAP wont work, complains about MOST error and demands animation.

Of course because it sees the connection drop. When I switch to Most_Async or any other most protocol and check in inpa KL30 and KL15, I can see it turning on and off at few second intervals forever. I have never seen this behavour before. I will try remove the MULF and see if it is the cause.
Hi,

Some time ago, I was retrofiting mulf in e60. Have same situation like yours with hardware setup like yours - ori Icom Next and clone most adapter.

Ended up by switching to icom A2 clone and it works. So I thing ori ICOM Next is not compatible with clone MOST adapter...

In general I always try to use clone A2 when working with MOST in E series

If I helped, please magic buttons thx+rep yes yes yes under under under
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21-09-2022, 18:07 PM,
Post: #9
RE: CIC programming KL30 & KL15 cycling on and off with IP set to most
clone most adaptor ? should cause a problem i have a couple that lights were switched had to take apart in switch back in was all ok , os some times tcu is back need fiber loop to bypass optically in hide thru istap loader , , hope this helps
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23-09-2022, 07:15 AM, (This post was last modified: 23-09-2022, 07:17 AM by willisodhiambo.)
Post: #10
RE: CIC programming KL30 & KL15 cycling on and off with IP set to most
(21-09-2022, 09:31 AM)lustek Wrote:  
(21-09-2022, 06:04 AM)willisodhiambo Wrote:  
(20-09-2022, 13:37 PM)Node Wrote:  I understand neither of what are you doing nor what are you trying to do.

Are you trying to use ISTA-P or WinKFP or what?

If you set ISTA+ to ediabas, it won't try to detect ignition at all, unless you use some kind of voltage fix (like my solution). ICOM or not.

I want to update the CIC with winkfp. ISTAP wont work, complains about MOST error and demands animation.

Of course because it sees the connection drop. When I switch to Most_Async or any other most protocol and check in inpa KL30 and KL15, I can see it turning on and off at few second intervals forever. I have never seen this behavour before. I will try remove the MULF and see if it is the cause.
Hi,

Some time ago, I was retrofiting mulf in e60. Have same situation like yours with hardware setup like yours - ori Icom Next and clone most adapter.

Ended up by switching to icom A2 clone and it works. So I thing ori ICOM Next is not compatible with clone MOST adapter...

In general I always try to use clone A2 when working with MOST in E series

This might be true. Next icom B very expensive. Il;l see if I can gen icom A though those are now very rare!!

(21-09-2022, 18:07 PM)bimmer71 Wrote:  clone most adaptor ? should cause a problem i have a couple that lights were switched  had to take apart in switch back in was all ok  , os some times tcu is back need fiber loop to bypass optically in hide thru istap loader ,  , hope this helps

I have used these adapters before but with ICOM A. I will try loop out ULF and see but I think it might be the adapter
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