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Disable CC messages relating to a CC-ID codes
12-01-2023, 09:10 AM,
Post: #1
Disable CC messages relating to a CC-ID codes
Im looking for a way to disable CC messages using CC-ID codes through coding. Similar to how sos is coded out by changing 5th byte from FF and F7 in CC_AKTIVIERUNG_5.

Is there a way to map the codes to the CC_AKTIVIERUNG in the cafd? Or cc messages that are under specific CC_AKTIVIERUNG block?
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12-01-2023, 12:38 PM,
Post: #2
RE: Disable CC messages relating to a CC-ID codes
(12-01-2023, 09:10 AM)TheNine90 Wrote:  Im looking for a way to disable CC messages using CC-ID codes through coding. Similar to how sos is coded out by changing 5th byte from FF and F7 in CC_AKTIVIERUNG_5.

Is there a way to map the codes to the CC_AKTIVIERUNG in the cafd? Or cc messages that are under specific CC_AKTIVIERUNG block?

what fault you wana disable i can find you what CC-ID for that system
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12-01-2023, 14:02 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-01-2023, 14:05 PM by TheNine90.)
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RE: Disable CC messages relating to a CC-ID codes
I have a complete list of the CC-ID. I want to know how it relates to the fdl and how to work it out. Also how to delete individual CC message.

You can choose any CC-ID and illustrate how figure out it location in the fdl and to disable it.
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12-01-2023, 14:31 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-01-2023, 14:38 PM by Node.)
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RE: Disable CC messages relating to a CC-ID codes
IMHO general idea is that there is 1 bit for each CC-ID and all of them are sequential.

AFAIK SOS failure is CC-ID 299.

Each group has 8 bytes so 64 (= 8 * 8) bits total.

299 / 64 = 4.xxx so it's 5th group (as groups are counted from 1: 4 + 1 = 5).

299 - 64 * 4 = 43 so it's 43rd bit in 5th group.

43 / 8 = 5.xxx so it's 5th byte (as bytes are counted from 0: 5 + 0 = 5).

43 - 5 * 8 = 3 so it's 3rd bit (as bits are also counted from 0)

3rd bit has value of 8 (= 2 ^ 3) so FF - 8 = F7. Well, to be more precise - works when bit WAS SET ONLY. Normally you would do NOT-AND operation which works always. So initial value FF & (~8). ~8 = F7. FF & F7 = F7.

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12-01-2023, 19:39 PM,
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RE: Disable CC messages relating to a CC-ID codes
Thanks for the explanation.
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13-01-2023, 10:24 AM,
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RE: Disable CC messages relating to a CC-ID codes
(12-01-2023, 14:31 PM)Node Wrote:  IMHO general idea is that there is 1 bit for each CC-ID and all of them are sequential.

AFAIK SOS failure is CC-ID 299.

Each group has 8 bytes so 64 (= 8 * 8) bits total.

299 / 64 = 4.xxx so it's 5th group (as groups are counted from 1: 4 + 1 = 5).

299 - 64 * 4 = 43 so it's 43rd bit in 5th group.

43 / 8 = 5.xxx so it's 5th byte (as bytes are counted from 0: 5 + 0 = 5).

43 - 5 * 8 = 3 so it's 3rd bit (as bits are also counted from 0)

3rd bit has value of 8 (= 2 ^ 3) so FF - 8 = F7. Well, to be more precise - works when bit WAS SET ONLY. Normally you would do NOT-AND operation which works always. So initial value FF & (~8). ~8 = F7. FF & F7 = F7.

ELEMENTARY!!!

Assuming cc-id 256, how this math will work?

256 - 64 * 4 = 0
0 / 8 = 0
0 - 0 * 8 = 0
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13-01-2023, 11:19 AM, (This post was last modified: 13-01-2023, 11:20 AM by Node.)
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RE: Disable CC messages relating to a CC-ID codes
(13-01-2023, 10:24 AM)elthox Wrote:  
(12-01-2023, 14:31 PM)Node Wrote:  IMHO general idea is that there is 1 bit for each CC-ID and all of them are sequential.

AFAIK SOS failure is CC-ID 299.

Each group has 8 bytes so 64 (= 8 * 8) bits total.

299 / 64 = 4.xxx so it's 5th group (as groups are counted from 1: 4 + 1 = 5).

299 - 64 * 4 = 43 so it's 43rd bit in 5th group.

43 / 8 = 5.xxx so it's 5th byte (as bytes are counted from 0: 5 + 0 = 5).

43 - 5 * 8 = 3 so it's 3rd bit (as bits are also counted from 0)

3rd bit has value of 8 (= 2 ^ 3) so FF - 8 = F7. Well, to be more precise - works when bit WAS SET ONLY. Normally you would do NOT-AND operation which works always. So initial value FF & (~8). ~8 = F7. FF & F7 = F7.

ELEMENTARY!!!

Assuming cc-id 256, how this math will work?

256 - 64 * 4 = 0
0 / 8 = 0
0 - 0 * 8 = 0

So it will be 0'th bit in byte 0 smile
0'th bit value is 2^0 = 1, so FF & (~1) = FE (assuming initial value was FF).

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13-01-2023, 12:58 PM,
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RE: Disable CC messages relating to a CC-ID codes
(13-01-2023, 11:19 AM)Node Wrote:  
(13-01-2023, 10:24 AM)elthox Wrote:  
(12-01-2023, 14:31 PM)Node Wrote:  IMHO general idea is that there is 1 bit for each CC-ID and all of them are sequential.

AFAIK SOS failure is CC-ID 299.

Each group has 8 bytes so 64 (= 8 * 8) bits total.

299 / 64 = 4.xxx so it's 5th group (as groups are counted from 1: 4 + 1 = 5).

299 - 64 * 4 = 43 so it's 43rd bit in 5th group.

43 / 8 = 5.xxx so it's 5th byte (as bytes are counted from 0: 5 + 0 = 5).

43 - 5 * 8 = 3 so it's 3rd bit (as bits are also counted from 0)

3rd bit has value of 8 (= 2 ^ 3) so FF - 8 = F7. Well, to be more precise - works when bit WAS SET ONLY. Normally you would do NOT-AND operation which works always. So initial value FF & (~8). ~8 = F7. FF & F7 = F7.

ELEMENTARY!!!

Assuming cc-id 256, how this math will work?

256 - 64 * 4 = 0
0 / 8 = 0
0 - 0 * 8 = 0

So it will be 0'th bit in byte 0 smile
0'th bit value is 2^0 = 1, so FF & (~1) = FE (assuming initial value was FF).

Got it. So in another scenario, 250 would have:
7th group
FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FB
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13-01-2023, 13:22 PM, (This post was last modified: 13-01-2023, 13:23 PM by Node.)
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RE: Disable CC messages relating to a CC-ID codes
(13-01-2023, 12:58 PM)elthox Wrote:  
(13-01-2023, 11:19 AM)Node Wrote:  
(13-01-2023, 10:24 AM)elthox Wrote:  
(12-01-2023, 14:31 PM)Node Wrote:  IMHO general idea is that there is 1 bit for each CC-ID and all of them are sequential.

AFAIK SOS failure is CC-ID 299.

Each group has 8 bytes so 64 (= 8 * 8) bits total.

299 / 64 = 4.xxx so it's 5th group (as groups are counted from 1: 4 + 1 = 5).

299 - 64 * 4 = 43 so it's 43rd bit in 5th group.

43 / 8 = 5.xxx so it's 5th byte (as bytes are counted from 0: 5 + 0 = 5).

43 - 5 * 8 = 3 so it's 3rd bit (as bits are also counted from 0)

3rd bit has value of 8 (= 2 ^ 3) so FF - 8 = F7. Well, to be more precise - works when bit WAS SET ONLY. Normally you would do NOT-AND operation which works always. So initial value FF & (~8). ~8 = F7. FF & F7 = F7.

ELEMENTARY!!!

Assuming cc-id 256, how this math will work?

256 - 64 * 4 = 0
0 / 8 = 0
0 - 0 * 8 = 0

So it will be 0'th bit in byte 0 smile
0'th bit value is 2^0 = 1, so FF & (~1) = FE (assuming initial value was FF).

Got it. So in another scenario, 250 would have:
7th group
FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FB

Yes. (except 7th byte, not group smile, in the 4th group)

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein.
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19-01-2023, 12:57 PM,
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RE: Disable CC messages relating to a CC-ID codes
Hi Node,

How would you operate among the below codes? so basically when there are multiple codes for the same message.

CC-ID 253
Parking Brake Failed

CC-ID 239
Parking Brake Failed
CC-ID 240
Parking Brake Failed
CC-ID 241
Parking Brake Failed
CC-ID 242
Parking Brake Failed
CC-ID 243
Parking Brake Failed

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