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K1300 K40 - NCS expert On Board Computer coding explanation?
12-10-2023, 10:47 AM,
Post: #1
K1300 K40 - NCS expert On Board Computer coding explanation?
Hi !

I'd like to help a friend that bought a used k1300 to enable

- Temperature reading (additional probe will be installed
- fuel Range calculation
- deactivate LAMPF warning due to led headlight
- Tyre sensor température display
-.. And everything that's possible

His dash has the info button, from what I've read it means the Kombi is actually "OBC" compatible
Reading the FSW_PWS with ncs expert give this
Apparently  the dash is the same as K25 (R1200GS ) - or at least ncs dummy identify as a K25

But some parameter doesnt make sense .. and i havent found the meaning ! 


Code:
LANGUAGE_CODE
deutsch
TYPE
nicht_verwendet
DAMP_FACTOR_SINKING_FUEL
tau_1.6
DAMP_FACTOR_RISING_FUEL
tau_1.6
TANK_RES_THRESHOLD_ON
wert_09
TANK_RES_THRESHOLD_OFF
wert_09
TANK_RES_VALUE_FOR_RANGE
wert_01
TANK_COR_FACTOR_FOR_RANGE
wert_02
FNV
aktiv
FNB
aktiv
FWV
aktiv
FWB
aktiv
FFV
aktiv
FFB
aktiv
FFVB
nicht_aktiv
FFBB
nicht_aktiv
DAMP_FACTOR_TEMP_SINKING
tau_3.2
DAMP_FACTOR_TEMP_RISING
tau_3.2
CNV
aktiv
CNB
aktiv
CWV
aktiv
CWB
aktiv
CFV
aktiv
CFB
aktiv
CFVB
aktiv
CFBB
nicht_aktiv
OFFSET_ODOMETER
0_km
ASC
aktiv
DWA_ACTIVE_TIME
3_tage
ZTDC
aktiv
ZDDC
aktiv
ZCLK
aktiv
ZBC
aktiv
TIME_PRE_DRIVE_CHECK_1
3_sekunden
TIME_PRE_DRIVE_CHECK_2
2_sekunden
TIME_PRE_DRIVE_CHECK_2A
2_sekunden
TIME_PRE_DRIVE_CHECK_3
2_sekunden
ODO_UNIT
km
TANK_CAPACITY_100_PERCENT
16.5_liter
ESA
nicht_aktiv
NUMBER_OF_CYLINDERS
4-zylinder
MODEL_VARIANT_CODING_ABS
k40_abs_asc
ABS
aktiv
DWA
nicht_aktiv
CLOCK_MODE
24h
COOLANT_TEMP_X1-X6
wasser_temp
COOL_TEMP_BAR_GRAPH_Y1-Y6
wasser_temp_9_seg
KL_R_ABSCHALTVERZ
wert_01
OSD_MASK
alle_nicht_aktiv
TIME_ESA_STATUS
wert_02
TIME_INTRO_HB
wert_01
TIME_INTRO_LB
wert_01
TIME_PRE_DRIVE_CHECK_4
2_sekunden
WAKEUP_ABSCHALTVERZ
wert_01
AVERAGE_CONSUMPTION
wert_01
FL_X0_OR_FUEL_BAR_1_ON
anzeige_gross
normale_anzeige_9_seg
FL_X1_OR_FUEL_BAR_1_OFF
normale_anzeige_9_seg
FL_X2_OR_FUEL_BAR_2_X0
normale_anzeige_9_seg
FL_X3_OR_FUEL_BAR_2_X1
normale_anzeige_9_seg
FL_X4_OR_FUEL_BAR_2_Y0
anzeige_9_seg_k4x
anzeige_9_seg_k4x_mue
FL_Y0_OR_FUEL_BAR_2_Y1
anzeige_gross
normale_anzeige_9_seg
FL_Y1_OR_FUEL_BAR_4_OFF
normale_anzeige_9_seg
FL_Y2
normale_anzeige_9_seg
FL_Y3
normale_anzeige_9_seg
FL_Y4
normale_anzeige_9_seg
SPANNED_DISPLAY_COOLANT
nicht_aktiv
SPANNED_DISPLAY_TANK
nicht_aktiv
TANK_RES_WARNING
aktiv
TO_CHECK_BEF_SWITCH_OFF
kein_timeout_check
OELSTANDSANZEIGE
nicht_aktiv
BBVA
nicht_aktiv
BC
nicht_aktiv
CONSUMPTION_UNIT
l/100km
RADIO
nicht_aktiv
SITZHEIZUNG
nicht_aktiv
TEMP_UNIT
grad_c
TEMPOMAT
nicht_aktiv
ZWEI_LITER_SYNCHRON
nicht_aktiv
CONFIG_EXACT_SPEED_DISP
nicht_aktiv
DISPLAY_NO_RADIO
aktiv
PRESSURE_UNIT
bar
RDC
aktiv
YY_SPEED
test_par
K_FACT_SPEEDO_AND_DCOUNT
k40_mue_48/48
k43_mue_48/48
ABS_TYPE
light_on
HOUR_METER
nicht_aktiv
RANGE_IN_RESERVE
aktiv
RDC_TYRE_TEMP
nicht_aktiv
OAT_ENABLE
nicht_aktiv
TANK_DISPLAY_DISABLE
nicht_aktiv
DAMP_VALUE_AVERAGE_CONSUM
wert_01
HEAT_PUSH_BUTTON
heizung_per_taster
ANZEIGEZEIT_WEGABHAENGIG
anzeige_ein
ANZEIGEZEIT_ZEITABHAENGIG
anzeige_ein
PERMANENTANZEIGE_WEGABH
anzeige_ein
PERMANENTANZEIGE_ZEITABH
anzeige_ein
SERVICE_WARNBEREICH_WEG
1000_km
SERVICE_ZEITABHAENGIG
1_monat
VORANGESTELLTE_NULLEN
unterdrueckung_ein
WARNLEUCHTE_WEGABHAENGIG
warnleuchte_ein
WARNLEUCHTE_ZEITABHAENGIG
warnleuchte_ein
HGH_DISPLAY_TIME
wert_01
TNK_DEAD_LOWR_CAP
wert_02
TNK_DEAD_LOWR_LIM
wert_02
TNK_DEAD_UPPR_CAP
wert_02
TNK_DEAD_UPPR_LIM_OFF
wert_02
TNK_DEAD_UPPR_LIM_ON
wert_02
FUEL_ALGORITHM_ACTIVATE
nicht_aktiv

What does mean  
- ZWEI_LITER_SYNCHRON 
-  OAT_ENABLE ?
- Tank display enable (what will it do?..) 
- ELSTANDSANZEIGE
-OELSTANDSANZEIGE => Does it needs a new sensor ???? 
- BBVA
-FFVB
-FFBB
- What does exact speed do compared to stock? 

Does enable "OBC" will enable temperature etc ? 

I suppose my usual savior @Vojno will save the day again tongue ! 

Can these settings be also modified via winfkp or INPA (if i manage to make inpa work...)
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12-10-2023, 14:02 PM,
Post: #2
RE: K1300 K40 - NCS expert On Board Computer coding explanation?
First of all, thank you for your great trust! smile

Not in the order of asking:
In terms of electrical system ALL BN2000 handeld (coded) with NCS!
INPA is only for diagnosis, winkfp isfor flashing!

This dash is "universal" biggrin I mean the hardware use for GS an K1200/K1300, its only casing is different and the scale of the instrument is different. wink

- If you want to see outside temperatur, fuel range... this is Board Computer functionality, then add to VO 539 which is BC. But BC uses a foil sensor in the tank, which sucks for quality.
It's easy to change BC to active in KOMBI!!!!!
- Lamp warning is in ZFE but not everything can be turned off not quite like cars!

Use NCSDummy for abbreviations! Either it helps or it doesn't! biggrin

" Tank display enable (what will it do?..) "
The folie sensor has too many failures, therefore sometime around 2010 they returned to the float potentiometer solution. Only the R1200R can't use this float sensor due to the shape of the metal tank.
A level switch was used for this, therefore, the tank bar display must be switched off! KOMBI indicates only that the reserve level has been reached.
And now let's hold on!!!
The tank level display on one side of the LCD display is switched off, which would have caused an asymmetrical look, therefore, the oil temperature display was also switched off from the other side of LCD!
This is an engineering solution!!!! but I suspect there is something else behind it. wink

Vojnó
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12-10-2023, 15:12 PM,
Post: #3
RE: K1300 K40 - NCS expert On Board Computer coding explanation?
You always have the response .. adore adore   and it's within hours.. not days. I hope than one day i'll know half of your knowledge..  because, especially regarding motorrad.. There is almost no tutorial for advanced coding/flashing/Etc - I'm not even sure BMW ever gave this type of training to their techs ! 

1)Regarding NCS - I'm asking because for  -LSTAND  SANZEIGE ,BBVA,FFVB,FFBB I've no idea what they mean, and NCS dummy doesn't know either (No translation available)  ! hiddentmi

2) So if I understood,the best way is actually to change "BC" to aktiv"  within the KMBI_K25 settings with NCS_expert ?  So it doesn't mess with the fuel reading  ? Or should i just add 537 to the VO ? smile Or both do both ? ..

3) The bike in question is a 2009 K1300s.. so i suppose it still have the stupid strip?..

4)Another strange discovery : the k1300s fuel tank is 19 Liters  Km , so why 
"TANK_CAPACITY_100_PERCENT is 16.5_liter" in the  KMBI_K25 settings?

5) I know that in the past you've said it's possible to code cruise control/ tempomat - ECU is totally capable of it - but did you ever encountered a k1300R/S with it ? I'm wondering if it's possible due to the (lack of?) space 

6) Should i add " X510A Oil level warning, electronic" to the VO to activate the oil level sensor? Or just coding in KMBI will do? 

Thhhhhannnkks !!!!
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15-10-2023, 14:18 PM,
Post: #4
RE: K1300 K40 - NCS expert On Board Computer coding explanation?
1) Yes, there is not much information.....

2.) Yes, the best if you change in KMBI -> BC to active, and in ZFE -> EXTERN_TEMP_SENSOR to active and don't forget to connect the tempsensor! wink

3.) I see that this is a floating beacon by default, but you can only be sure if you look into it os see in the ZFE config! biggrin

4.) I don't know the answer to that, but I've seen something similar biggrin

5.) I already put it in K1200GT, anyway, you have to get on the bike

6.) If you add BC (SA 510) the you have oil level sensor, of course, if the sensor is also installed! wink
But my personaly opinion I was lucky enough to encounter crappy operation....

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