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Q7 4M Bose retrofit help - no sound
20-09-2017, 00:37 AM, (This post was last modified: 20-09-2017, 00:40 AM by spyderboyant.)
Post: #1
Q7 4M Bose retrofit help - no sound
Hi,

trying to retrofit BOSE into my Q7 4M from active sound (amplifier in MIB2). I have created a new loom to run the existing speaker cables back to the rear of the car where the amplifier is. I have run all speakers except for the surround ones in the roof as I need to remove the headliner (and cut it) to fit the new speaker grilles. When I re-code the 5F (MIB2) to use external amplifer I get no sound. I would have thought I would have got some level of audio from the amp. Could this be because the 5F needs a certain dataset (ie VCP) to be able to talk to the amplifier. My 5F is version 4M0 035 041 G. I know others that have factory BOSE have amplifier 4M0 035 035. Comparing a mates car in the UK with mine, we have all the same components except he has BOSE and I have active sound.

I'm also seeing this error which doesn't mean anything to me along with Data set implausible errors. Could this mean my amp is stuffed? Its only a priority 6 fault:

0585 - Loudspeaker Channel 12
B13AB 01 [009] - Electrical Failure
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 91
Mileage: 19771 km
Date: 2017.06.01
Time: 11:10:44

Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V

1600 - Data Set Implausible
B2012 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 91
Mileage: 19771 km
Date: 2017.06.01
Time: 11:09:49

Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V

1635 - Data Set Implausible
B2012 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 91
Mileage: 19771 km
Date: 2017.06.01
Time: 11:09:49

Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V

1636 - Data Set Implausible
B2012 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 91
Mileage: 19771 km
Date: 2017.06.01
Time: 11:09:49

Voltage terminal 30: 12.0 V

(20-09-2017, 00:37 AM)spyderboyant Wrote:  Hi,

trying to retrofit BOSE into my Q7 4M from active sound (amplifier in MIB2). I have created a new loom to run the existing speaker cables back to the rear of the car where the amplifier is. I have run all speakers except for the surround ones in the roof as I need to remove the headliner (and cut it) to fit the new speaker grilles. When I re-code the 5F (MIB2) to use external amplifer I get no sound. I would have thought I would have got some level of audio from the amp. Could this be because the 5F needs a certain dataset (ie VCP) to be able to talk to the amplifier. My 5F is version 4M0 035 041 G. I know others that have factory BOSE have amplifier 4M0 035 035. Comparing a mates car in the UK with mine, we have all the same components except he has BOSE and I have active sound. We both have Virtual Cockpit, surround cameras, A5 front camera, telephone etc..

I'm also seeing this error which doesn't mean anything to me along with Data set implausible errors. Could this mean my amp is stuffed? Its only a priority 6 fault:

0585 - Loudspeaker Channel 12
B13AB 01 [009] - Electrical Failure
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 91
Mileage: 19771 km
Date: 2017.06.01
Time: 11:10:44

Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V

1600 - Data Set Implausible
B2012 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 91
Mileage: 19771 km
Date: 2017.06.01
Time: 11:09:49

Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V

1635 - Data Set Implausible
B2012 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 91
Mileage: 19771 km
Date: 2017.06.01
Time: 11:09:49

Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V

1636 - Data Set Implausible
B2012 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 91
Mileage: 19771 km
Date: 2017.06.01
Time: 11:09:49

Voltage terminal 30: 12.0 V

Comparing data sets in VCDS:

Address 5F: Information Electr.
Control Module Part Number: 4M0 035 041 G <<<<<<<
Component and/or Version: MU-P-LND-RW 051 0976
Software Coding: 01370608FF0A000013511101000A00332F001BE601700104FE
Work Shop Code: WSC 12345
VCID: 25023E9224AD7969BA-8070

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
Serial number:
Identification: JTB-074
Date: 10.11.15
Manufacturer number: 1192
Test stand number: 09BA
Flash Status
Programming Attempts(application): 0/4
Programming Attempts(data): 65535/1/8
Successful Attempts(data): 65535/1/8
Flash Date: 00.01.01
Flash Tool Code(data): 61029 123 12345
Misc.
Hardware number: 4M0 035 041 A <<<<<<<
Workshop System Name: J794
Equipment/PR Code: 000000021571CF5D
Dataset Number: 4M0909545D <<<<<<<<
Dataset Version: 0029 <<<<<<<<<
ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS
ASAM Dataset Revision: 001115

==============================

Address 5F: Information Electr.
Control Module Part Number: 4M0 035 035 G
Component and/or Version: MU-P-LND-EU 050 0976
Software Coding: 013706010000000013111102000A00332F001BE701700100BE
Work Shop Code: WSC 00046
VCID: 281C34AD5335CA0764-807C

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
Serial number:
Identification: JTB-074
Date: 05.08.15
Manufacturer number: 1182
Test stand number: 0E0C
Flash Status
Programming Attempts(application): 0/8
Programming Attempts(data): 65535/1/2
Successful Attempts(data): 65535/1/2
Flash Date: 00.01.01
Flash Tool Code(data): 61029 123 12345
Misc.
Hardware number: 4M0 035 035 A <<<<<<<
Workshop System Name: J794
Equipment/PR Code: 00000002E43D608C
Dataset Number: 4M0909545C <<<<<<<<
Dataset Version: 0023 <<<<<<<<
ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS
ASAM Dataset Revision: 001115
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20-09-2017, 18:26 PM,
Post: #2
RE: Q7 4M Bose retrofit help - no sound
The dataset error is because it is not well parameterized the unit with the configuration of bose, to me I happened recently in a unit mib2 of a Seat Leon
The parametrice with vcp and errors out and running.
In vcp I think there was a file to bose that drive
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20-09-2017, 21:02 PM,
Post: #3
RE: Q7 4M Bose retrofit help - no sound
(20-09-2017, 18:26 PM)aprietatuercas1974 Wrote:  The dataset error is because it is not well parameterized the unit with the configuration of bose, to me I happened recently in a unit mib2 of a Seat Leon
The parametrice with vcp and errors out and running.
In vcp I think there was a file to bose that drive

Did it have no sound until you paramertized the MIB2?
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21-09-2017, 01:52 AM,
Post: #4
RE: Q7 4M Bose retrofit help - no sound
I think you need check with odis reotrofit it need remove CP
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21-09-2017, 02:00 AM,
Post: #5
RE: Q7 4M Bose retrofit help - no sound
CP had been removed

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21-09-2017, 04:42 AM,
Post: #6
RE: Q7 4M Bose retrofit help - no sound
If I had, but the logical thing is to remove the errors, apart that it may be that in behavior the behavior is different
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