[Wibo]

for the Insignia use a HQ Clone, then you can do much more,as with a chinese one..

[irarkh]

Thank you for all you share, I know there is no way to get an approval on a distance order despite of buying from china! At least looking forward to find out the way it can be verified by photos which pcb is coming with real chip. For now the two components with or without installation on pcb is one sign. Is there any other specifications for separating real from fake? If the pcb has FW upgrade ability can we trust its real not fake?

[mattydr67]

There's no other things that will let you see from pics that its not a real Pic18F458.
If the MCU support tge upgrade/downgrade the firmware this means thats real but if a Chinese seller will tell you this then I will think it several times before buying.
Anyway a china clone is cheap enought to make tests till you will get a good real one.
If you don't wanna tests then buy from a trustable source not China if you don't know a good trustable chinese seller
Good luck

[irarkh]

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If you don't wanna tests tgen buy from a trsutable source not China if you don't know a good trustable chinese seller
Good luck

Can you pm me some trustable source links?

[irarkh]

I really can't understand the real issue. IMO hardware has no problem. I just worked on FDTI eprom as I mentioned and not flashing MCU. I checked the china clone software again and it passes the interface test now! Also with 120309a passes interface check. I need to check my car again!

[mattydr67]

Go check in your car using opcom china clone.
Do not use vauxcom 120309a because it will not work.
Good luck

[irarkh]

I made new tests. VAUX-COM_120309a+131223d_GB+OcFlash China is not responding anyway just reads the interface FW version. The other thing I figured out is when I reprogram eprom, FTDI, with 4F50 PID ept file for another serial eprom gets the new program. I can check FTDI HW id changed. the moment I start VAUX-COM_120309a+131223d_GB+OcFlash China the software rewrite back FTDI to 6001 PID, original eprom program. BTW, interface works with china clone 2010, but very few functionality to compare with VAUX-COM_120309a+131223d_GB+OcFlash China. Also china clone software can't read ECM! is that normal? Further more, when I exit CC 2010 software writes another version on screen, I attached captured pics.
Still my main question is remained. if the hardware bricked how it works with china clone 2010? And if not why VAUX-COM_120309a+131223d_GB+OcFlash China can't read ECU? if it's driver I tested both drivers Op Com USB V2 which has signing problem with win10. And the other driver Usb Serial Converter 2.8.30.0 version which has no problem with win10. Matty can't reach your pm again.

[mattydr67]

Once again
If the opcom tool is working with opcom china clone then its not defective.
For insignia you need lastest versions of software.
As I told you the fw1.99 is a fake and its actually fw1.39
And tje vauxcom 120309a is need fw 1.45 at least.
If you wanna using vauxcom 120309a you need to refalsh your tool with fw1.45
But if you will do this you will brick it because the MCU is not the real one and it doen't support upgrade/downgrade the firmware.
Vauxcom 120309a+131223 is a fake too
Mate forget about that tool to works in Insignia.
You need the lastest versions of opcom not that fake version that you get it for free on forums. You need oficial untouched/original opcom software with license and a real opcom tool that its able to connect to CH-CAN ecus on your car too if you wanna have full coverage in your car.
The tool that you have in your hand right now will work only with opcom china clone version ( 100219a ) and nothing else. And this version is too old for your car too

Good luck

[irarkh]

Hi Matty,

I might forget to explain my fake Chinese clone was working with VAUX-COM_120309a+131223d_GB+OcFlash China software sent by seller. I managed to program the instrument and change some values before changes happen on Eprom. and if I knew structure of softwares and changes they may do on hardware to keep the process going I would decode software first rather trying to get busy with hardware. I'm electronics major graduated from university and Microsoft engineer the same time. Still didn't get technical dept of answers. No problem for those who just following commercial advice. But I will get one right or I make the same one right. All fake and none fake components are the same in my sight as they are designed to carry their duty in a circuit. One may built with better quality and less tolerance the other may built for cheaper price and less quality. In fact faking took place on software part more rather than hardware.

[mattydr67]

Ok I will say again in one post all that I can tell you:
- your issue could be in the driver
-your issue could be in the firmware of your MCU which is a PIC18F45K80 and not the right one PIC18F458
- your issue could be in the firmware because its not the right one

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Mate once again because I suppose you don't understand well.
The MCU in your hardware is working at least is not reflashed. If you reflashed the MCU this will not work. Not because its damged but because you flash it with a dump for a diffrent MCU and what you flashed in it is not matched.
Then the firnware used fw1.99 its a fake created and its not a real one. I mean the firmware version is actually fw1.39
For vauxcom 120309a you need at least fw1.45

Now if you say that the only thing that you did is that you flashed the FTDI so it seems that your problem could be in the drivers settings or you didn't used the correct dump ( ept ) for the FTDI

And you use windows 10. And there is a driver problems.
I told you that there are some videos in youtube that will let see better then I can say in words how to fix this.

And in the last I said I cannot advise you what you buy from China because what you see it coudn't be what you got. All its lottery.
But I told you to buy a tool that it hasn't that components on PCB or their pads ( D5 and C22 )
Because you are sure that there is a PIC18F458 on board which is the correct MCU for opcom
Then your Insignia has controlers on CH-CAN and non of the clones made in China cannot connect to this controlers.
This are all I can say. If this don't make you fix your tool maybe will be someone else that will be able to give you beter advises.

Good luck

P.S
Vid/Pid 0403/4F50 works only with opcom china clone
Vid/Pid 0403/6001 works with opcom china clone and with any opcom software version