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Updating NCS-Expert, etc. with new data files
13-03-2016, 20:06 PM,
Post: #1
Updating NCS-Expert, etc. with new data files
Hi,

I am about to update my data-files in NCS-Expert, EDIABAS, etc...
But since I never have done this before, i just want to be sure that I'm doing it right...

Updating the "NCSEXPER\DATEN" folder i quite forward!
Put all newer files into the chassis-folders...

But what about the "EDIABAS\Ecu" and "NCSEXPER\SGDAT" folders?
What is the procedure to update these folders, since everything has to be in same folder?

And is it enough to just copy the newest files into the folders or do I have to start from the oldest I can find?
(Atm. is my oldest V32 and newest V54)


Thanks in advance! (:

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13-03-2016, 20:19 PM,
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RE: Updating NCS-Expert, etc. with new data files
The best way is using Bmwcoding tools. Just select folder and click on "update sp-daten"

Regarding version, just take last ones!

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13-03-2016, 20:45 PM,
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RE: Updating NCS-Expert, etc. with new data files
Thank you so much for the quick reply! (:
I think I have found it, so I will give it a try!

Okay. So there is no files in the older versions that is needed?
Which means that I can delete every file in the mentioned folders and just copy the files from V54?



- UPDATE:
Well.. The program couldn't run on my laptop... (Win 10 Pro X64)
So back to the old way and why use a program if it is enough to use the latest? (o:

But I don't quite understand why an ex. E46 and E60 have the same SGDAT files.
(And the same for Ecu)

And sorry for this stupid question, but it has been years since i last used this.

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14-03-2016, 11:19 AM,
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RE: Updating NCS-Expert, etc. with new data files
BMW CodingTool works perfect on Win 10 x64
There is no more updates for older cars, so files are same
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14-03-2016, 16:52 PM,
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RE: Updating NCS-Expert, etc. with new data files
(13-03-2016, 20:45 PM)DICKHILL Wrote:  Thank you so much for the quick reply! (:
I think I have found it, so I will give it a try!

Okay. So there is no files in the older versions that is needed?
Which means that I can delete every file in the mentioned folders and just copy the files from V54?



- UPDATE:
Well.. The program couldn't run on my laptop... (Win 10 Pro X64)
So back to the old way and why use a program if it is enough to use the latest? (o:

But I don't quite understand why an ex. E46 and E60 have the same SGDAT files.
(And the same for Ecu)

And sorry for this stupid question, but it has been years since i last used this.

Try to use the Program in Admin Mode, works for me with Win 10 Pro x64
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14-03-2016, 19:44 PM,
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RE: Updating NCS-Expert, etc. with new data files
(13-03-2016, 20:45 PM)DICKHILL Wrote:  .......
But I don't quite understand why an ex. E46 and E60 have the same SGDAT files.
(And the same for Ecu)
.......

Because it cost ALOT of money to build components...
Say m54 engine is been used in e46/e39/e60/etc.... so therefore there is only need for 1-2 files to communicate to modules/computer
Say remote Garage Controller(near sunroof)
Is from 2001 and it's been used in cars say until 2008-9 3/5/6/7/8-series so therefore there is only need for 1 file to communicate to that peace of equipment
and so on and so forth

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14-03-2016, 19:58 PM,
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RE: Updating NCS-Expert, etc. with new data files
(14-03-2016, 11:19 AM)inspi1981 Wrote:  BMW CodingTool works perfect on Win 10 x64
There is no more updates for older cars, so files are same

Maybe it works, but not on my Laptop...
It misses a file and putting it into right folder, still gives the same error message.



(14-03-2016, 16:52 PM)Select25 Wrote:  
(13-03-2016, 20:45 PM)DICKHILL Wrote:  Thank you so much for the quick reply! (:
I think I have found it, so I will give it a try!

Okay. So there is no files in the older versions that is needed?
Which means that I can delete every file in the mentioned folders and just copy the files from V54?



- UPDATE:
Well.. The program couldn't run on my laptop... (Win 10 Pro X64)
So back to the old way and why use a program if it is enough to use the latest? (o:

But I don't quite understand why an ex. E46 and E60 have the same SGDAT files.
(And the same for Ecu)

And sorry for this stupid question, but it has been years since i last used this.

Try to use the Program in Admin Mode, works for me with Win 10 Pro x64

I think i already tried that, but I'm not sure...
So I will give it a try later! (:



(14-03-2016, 19:44 PM)CATAHA Wrote:  
(13-03-2016, 20:45 PM)DICKHILL Wrote:  .......
But I don't quite understand why an ex. E46 and E60 have the same SGDAT files.
(And the same for Ecu)
.......

Because it cost ALOT of money to build components...
Say m54 engine is been used in e46/e39/e60/etc.... so therefore there is only need for 1-2 files to communicate to modules/computer
Say remote Garage Controller(near sunroof)
Is from 2001 and it's been used in cars say until 2008-9 3/5/6/7/8-series so therefore there is only need for 1 file to communicate to that peace of equipment
and so on and so forth

I fully understand what you mean and I can see the sense of it! (:
But i thought that the modules in the different models would be different and therefore would require other files.
(I'm thinking of different coding options.)

But okay... My E46 330Ci Convertible '01 don't have leaving-home light when i turn off my car, until I tap the high-beam switch.
But I can activate the funktion.
So okay... Same file for newer models which have the right module that supports it.

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14-03-2016, 20:07 PM,
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RE: Updating NCS-Expert, etc. with new data files
Yeah you have to Download that File and put it in the same Folder as the exe.
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14-03-2016, 21:15 PM,
Post: #9
RE: Updating NCS-Expert, etc. with new data files
Sorry, sorry, sorry! :/
The program works fine now...
It starts when putting the missing "MSCOMCTL.OCX" into same folder as the program, and when running it as an Administrator.
(When not running as administrator, it just gives the missing MSCOMCTL.OCX error.)

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