[tste1982]

Hi,

I'm trying to retrofit a NBT into a F10 which had a CIC before.
We changed the ZGW for the CAN2 so the NBT starts up.

I've read that the ZGW it needs a special Software flashed to work properly.

Can anybody tell me what I need to flash?

Regards.

[840i]

If pre LCI you need ZGW 02 High with 8SK software loaded (Can be done with E-SYS)
But if your F10/F11 was built before 11/2011, it will not work.
You will need to change other modules and that is a lot more money making the NBT retrofit not a viable retrofit.
You will also need a ZBE converter if your iDrive controller has 2 plugs.

Plus you FM/DAB tuner will not work properly and radio reception will be poor. Even if you fit the correct FM/DAB amplifier for NBT. Many have this issue, yet to see a fix for it. Even if you provide power to the amplifier, reception will be poor.
Not having this issue on F3x

[tunning-gsm]

Sorry for off topic ( can u tell me the price for the cic ? if you want to sell it )

[tste1982]

The CIC was stolen, so the NBT retrofit was the replacement.

I don't know the exact date of the car, but I will find out.

[840i]

Well actually Carsystems just released a MOST based emulator that takes away the need to even replace the ZGW module for NBT Retrofits in F10/F11.
So this emulator will allow you to retrofit NBT in any F10 F11 regardless of build date. Pretty good news

[gt678]

My F10 is from 11/2010 and I only had to change the ZGW to the ZGW2 and cabling the CAN2 to the quadlock plug. I bought a new one and it completely worked without any programing of the ZGW. If you do the same with a F25 you have to program it.
If the car is built before 09/2010 you also need to bought a new CAS with a newer hardware index, instead the CAS doesent recognizes the break switch and will not start.

[smercki]

I think can solved with this
http://carsystems.com.ua/news-en/bmw-fxx...apter-news

[mcrussell]

If pre LCI you need ZGW 02 High with 8SK software loaded (Can be done with E-SYS)
But if your F10/F11 was built before 11/2011, it will not work.
You will need to change other modules and that is a lot more money making the NBT retrofit not a viable retrofit.
You will also need a ZBE converter if your iDrive controller has 2 plugs.

Plus you FM/DAB tuner will not work properly and radio reception will be poor. Even if you fit the correct FM/DAB amplifier for NBT. Many have this issue, yet to see a fix for it. Even if you provide power to the amplifier, reception will be poor.
Not having this issue on F3x

The FM & DAB issue is very strange, I have the same problem on 03/11 f11, I have tried many different amplifiers but the DAb is still very poor, I have noticed that with the ignition off the DAB is OK but a soon as you turn on ignition the DAB drops in & out, EKPM2 maybe? shot in the dark I know but LCI has EKPM3.

It has been doing my head in for months now

[gt678]

You have to wire Kl 30 or Kl 15 to Pin 13 of NBT. NBT has an other voltage output for diversity regulation. After this, radio will work perfect.

[mcrussell]

I have already done this for the FM, but the DAB is the issue which is 5v over the coax from NBT to dab antenna amp on the C post


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