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Cas 3+ Editor ?
05-03-2023, 19:20 PM,
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Cas 3+ Editor ?
Hello, does someone have a downloadlink to an CAS3+ Editor ? But not the one from NeoRonin


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05-03-2023, 19:30 PM,
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XZBMW  RE: Cas 3+ Editor ?
you mean this ?


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05-03-2023, 19:45 PM,
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RE: Cas 3+ Editor ?
(05-03-2023, 19:30 PM)pandokrator Wrote:  you mean this ?

This is the one from NeoRonin which we all have smile

he meant another tool which help in ISN Encrypted CAS'

I just checked now, NeoRonin has got another version which has the same feaure.

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05-03-2023, 20:36 PM,
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RE: Cas 3+ Editor ?
(05-03-2023, 19:45 PM)Mwahab Wrote:  
(05-03-2023, 19:30 PM)pandokrator Wrote:  you mean this ?

This is the one from NeoRonin which we all have smile

he meant another tool which help in ISN Encrypted CAS'

I just checked now, NeoRonin has got another version which has the same feaure.

Exactly, the Cas 3 editor bei NeoRonin shows me the wrong ISN, or at least encrypted one ? 

it shows me 3 isn, but whats the one from the dme ? Want to make a key with tango 2... a friend of mine has vvdi bmw, that shows a whole different isn than my cas editor...

the cas editor from neoronin only shows the decrypted isn. But i still dont know why it shows 3 types of ISN
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05-03-2023, 20:43 PM,
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RE: Cas 3+ Editor ?
Regarding cas3 crypto, common cas3 editor shows encrypted isn, and it's useless. Good cas3 editors have possibility to decrypt dump through known decrypted isn or through good working key codes. You can decrypt a dump also reading decrypted isn from good working ecu.

good working = fully working with that cas.

ISN is one, and is the first in common editor, the other 2 are checksums. Friend with vvdi has the good isn and that's why he uses the keyfob after reading to decrypt.

Crypto chain is made by key and isn, with known isn you can make keys and crypt in dump, and with working keys you can decrypt.

i spent so much time trying to find one of that editors and then i surrended, ended up in using hex editor and brain.exe

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05-03-2023, 20:55 PM,
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XZBMW  RE: Cas 3+ Editor ?
(05-03-2023, 20:43 PM)____ANGEL___ Wrote:  Regarding cas3 crypto, common cas3 editor shows encrypted isn, and it's useless. Good cas3 editors have possibility to decrypt dump through known decrypted isn or through good working key codes. You can decrypt a dump also reading decrypted isn from good working ecu.

good working = fully working with that cas.

ISN is one, and is the first in common editor, the other 2 are checksums. Friend with vvdi has the good isn and that's why he uses the keyfob after reading to decrypt.

But why is my tango not capable of reading the isn from the key ? it shows transponder not found ? but if I encrypt the key with cryptokey it shows me all the pages.

But it still asks me to give him ISN from dme to program key, how can i decrypt the isn ? I know the one from vvdi from my friend is working, we analysed my eeprom and the right isn came out. But its for learning and testing process

Thats why i need a good cas 3 editor, since vvdi is way to expensive wink

If i search up the isn from vvdi in my eeprom, it wont show me that isn.... Is it shown in flash ? But how can he detect my isn through eeprom?

EDIT: ofc i cant search the isn from vvdi since thats the one thats decrypted, if i search the encrypted one it shows me the right one

How can i decrypt it ?
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05-03-2023, 21:06 PM,
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RE: Cas 3+ Editor ?
in tango when you load a crypto dump, it asks that is necessary decrypt with dme/dde isn or working key

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05-03-2023, 21:21 PM,
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RE: Cas 3+ Editor ?
(05-03-2023, 21:06 PM)____ANGEL___ Wrote:  in tango when you load a crypto dump, it asks that is necessary decrypt with dme/dde isn or working key

But basically if the car starts, the isn in cas is the same as in the dme, right ?

so if i copy the decrypted isn as "DME ISN" in tango it should work right ? 

2 questions 

1. Why cant my clone tango read the key's isn ? 
2. how can i decrypt the cas isn in an HexEditor? 

I know that i can decrypt the keys with tango, but that doesnt help me to get the decrypted isn from cas 3+ or ? 

I dont talk about a cas thats different from the dme, so the isn in cas should be the same as the dme one
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05-03-2023, 21:37 PM,
Post: #9
RE: Cas 3+ Editor ?
if you use dme isn you can decrypt

if you use last 6 chars of tmcf of a working key you can decrypt

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05-03-2023, 21:39 PM,
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RE: Cas 3+ Editor ?
(05-03-2023, 21:37 PM)____ANGEL___ Wrote:  if you use dme isn you can decrypt

if you use last 6 chars of tmcf of a working key you can decrypt

Could you show me how its done ? im getting confused lol
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