[Gregor]

Hello
Bmw f11 vin C794386 it is possible to retrofitted nbt without any emulator, just exchange zgw on zgw2 4 sk/8sk?
I-level factory F010-09-525 Zeitkriterium 1210
Is CAS and ICM replacement necessary in this case?

[emhtuning]

you need emulator for your car , otherwise many thing needs to be replaced .

[rickynguyen]

@emhtuning: could retrofit NBT on F10 made 03/2012 by just exchange zgw to zgw2 4 sk/8sk?

[Thorsten]

HI,

for this kind of car, you can flash zgw to the right needed zgw 2 4SK for example.


Thorsten

[muskatas]

you need emulator for your car , otherwise many thing needs to be replaced .

And why a lot elements should be changed? Ive retrofited to 2010 11 nbt and what had to be change was zgw. Only one issue left - PDC button not fuctioning. other things works as they should.

[emhtuning]

you need emulator for your car , otherwise many thing needs to be replaced .

And why a lot elements should be changed? Ive retrofited to 2010 11 nbt and what had to be change was zgw. Only one issue left - PDC button not fuctioning. other things works as they should.

i am glad that i am not one of your customers , I would like to know the excuse you give to your customer for something like PDC button not working . 

we professional people don't offer anything that doesn't work 100% , the price of another ZGW is more than the price of the emulator , the different is that everything works as factory fitted .

[Gregor]

The emulator has already been ordered. I am waiting for a shipment.

[muskatas]

you need emulator for your car , otherwise many thing needs to be replaced .

And why a lot elements should be changed? Ive retrofited to 2010 11 nbt and what had to be change was zgw. Only one issue left - PDC button not fuctioning. other things works as they should.

i am glad that i am not one of your customers , I would like to know the excuse you give to your customer for something like PDC button not working . 

we professional people don't offer anything that doesn't work 100% , the price of another ZGW is more than the price of the emulator , the different is that everything works as factory fitted .

What a coincidence! Im glad that your not my costumer! also costumer knew that it will not work, ofcourse it can be made to work after icm replacement :P price of ZGW depends on country, for example for 8sk ive paid 70euro - so that price is same as for emulator but its way better than emulator.

[bmwcoder75]

you need emulator for your car , otherwise many thing needs to be replaced .

And why a lot elements should be changed? Ive retrofited to 2010 11 nbt and what had to be change was zgw. Only one issue left - PDC button not fuctioning. other things works as they should.

i am glad that i am not one of your customers , I would like to know the excuse you give to your customer for something like PDC button not working . 

we professional people don't offer anything that doesn't work 100% , the price of another ZGW is more than the price of the emulator , the different is that everything works as factory fitted .

You would be surprised, a lot of people would rather have a non working PDC button that spending 450 on a emulator alone (Or less for the PDC button emulator only)

I am not a fan either, but many are happy enough to lose that function and would not do the retrofit at all if they had to spend extra money for an emulator at all.

[rickynguyen]

you need emulator for your car , otherwise many thing needs to be replaced .

And why a lot elements should be changed? Ive retrofited to 2010 11 nbt and what had to be change was zgw. Only one issue left - PDC button not fuctioning. other things works as they should.

i am glad that i am not one of your customers , I would like to know the excuse you give to your customer for something like PDC button not working . 

we professional people don't offer anything that doesn't work 100% , the price of another ZGW is more than the price of the emulator , the different is that everything works as factory fitted .

What a coincidence! Im glad that your not my costumer! also costumer knew that it will not work, ofcourse it can be made to work after icm replacement :P price of ZGW depends on country, for example for 8sk ive paid 70euro - so that price is same as for emulator but its way better than emulator.

Could you tell me where to by emulator same price $70 as ZGW ?
I often use bimmerretrofit emulator cost $565 shipped