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cas / cluster bench setup
13-10-2018, 03:08 AM, (This post was last modified: 28-11-2018, 16:14 PM by Cniksor.)
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XZBMW  cas / cluster bench setup
11/27 UPDATE: SEE PAGE 5 , POST#41 FOR WORKING DIAGRAM.


hello everyone. im trying to build a bench setup so that i can test cas keys/cluster on bench. i got the following parts from a junked vehicle to start with:
obd2 port
cas3
cluster
key holder
start button.

now, from looking online i gathered this is the pinout for connections for each module. now i know this might not be right, im sure their is something im missing that will make this all work together. if anyone can guide me or help me i would highly appreciate it. thank you.

i made this quick drawing on how i think it should be connected or at least give me an idea on connections.
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13-10-2018, 05:14 AM,
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RE: cas / cluster bench setup
Mate you need Gateway

BR Eddy
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13-10-2018, 05:47 AM,
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RE: cas / cluster bench setup
Your bench can speed is 100 kb/s, but d-can is 500. If your dcan adapter not switchable, you must use gateway. I do it with e70 jbe.
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14-10-2018, 06:00 AM,
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RE: cas / cluster bench setup
thank you, i knew it wasnt going to be that simple.

so ill need something like image below. any emulator out there i can use instead of this? hopefully i can locate one at the junker.

[Image: s-l1600.jpg]
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14-10-2018, 10:08 AM,
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RE: cas / cluster bench setup
You need minimum:
CAS + key socket + button
JBBE (in jbbe there are 3 CAN buses, one for obd2, the other for DDE, DSC, EPS, EKP. Third to CAS, KOMBI, CID, ZBE, KLIMA, MRS, FRM, PDC, FZD ...)
If CAS from Europe is still ELV
I also did something trash in a more extended version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnVHZ0ImeZA
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14-10-2018, 18:40 PM, (This post was last modified: 14-10-2018, 19:02 PM by Cniksor.)
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RE: cas / cluster bench setup
(14-10-2018, 10:08 AM)wxwwxw Wrote:  You need minimum:
CAS + key socket + button
JBBE (in jbbe there are 3 CAN buses, one for obd2, the other for DDE, DSC, EPS, EKP. Third to CAS, KOMBI, CID, ZBE, KLIMA, MRS, FRM, PDC, FZD ...)
If CAS from Europe is still ELV
I also did something trash in a more extended version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnVHZ0ImeZA

i was able to find a jbe from 3 series at the junkyard today, from matching car i got all the other parts from, exactly like photo i posted.
i found this pinout on this forums but i think it isnt for jbe but JBR, do you happen to know how to connect the wiring?

so i have:
cas
kombi
key holder / start button
jbe
obd2 port


OBD II
1: Ignition Connector Block (wakeup)
2: not connected
3: Ethernet connection to cic quadlock pin 37 (black plug)
4: Gnd Connector Block
5: Gnd Connector Block
6: K-bus high (pin 17 on blue 54 pin jbr plug, x14271)
7: I have this connected to pin 30 (PA-BUS) of the CAS (not sure if this is correct???
8: Ethernet connection to cic quadlock pin 29 (black plug)
9: F_TD this goes to the DME)
10: not connected
11: Ethernet connection to cic quadlock pin 38 (black plug)
12: Ethernet connection to cic quadlock pin 31 (black plug)
13: Ethernet connection to cic quadlock pin 32 (black plug)
14: K-bus low (pin 33 on blue 54 pin jbr plug, x14271)
15: not connected
16: +12v Batt Connector Block

JBR x14270 ( the long black plug)
Pin 23 <----- GND Connector Block

JBR x14271 (the 54pin blue plug)
JBR x14271 Pin 10 = K-bus low <----> CAS X13376 pin 26 = K-bus low
JBR x14271 Pin 46 = K-bus high <----> CAS X13376 pin 35 = K-bus high

Pin 17 K-bus high <----> OBD Pin 6
Pin 33 K-bus low <----> OBD Pin 14

Pin 45 wakeup <----> (ignition) also connected to Pin 1 OBD

JBR x14272 (the 54pin black plug) to 8 pin CID (black cic display plug)
+12v -----> Power to Controller Pin 1
GND -----> GND to Controller Pin 2
Pin 11 <----> K-bus high CID Pin 3
Pin 30 <----> K-bus low CID Pin 4

Pin 1 -----> Power to CID Pin 1
Pin 27 -----> GND to CID Pin 3
Pin 29 <----> K-bus high CID Pin 5
Pin 31 <----> K-bus low CID Pin 6

JBR x4010 23pin plug (that connected to the fusebox base)
Pin 3 <----- +12v Batt (source) Connector Block
Pin 22 <----- +12v Batt (source) Connector Block

CAS X13376 black 41pin plug
Pin 21 <----- +12v Batt Connector Block
Pin 34 <----- +12v Batt Connector Block

Pin 12 <----> GND Connector Block
Pin 25 <----> GND Connector Block

Pin 8 <----> wakeup (ignition)
Pin 26 <----> K-bus low
Pin 35 <----> K-bus high

ELV
Pin 1 <----> GND Connector Block
Pin 2 <----> CAS EL + pin 23 CAS
Pin 3 <----> CAS EL - pin 24 CAS
Pin 4 <----> CAS PA-bus pin 30 CAS

Kombi
Pin 18 <----- GND Connector Block
Pin 9 <----- Power Connector Block
Pin 7 <----> K-bus low Connector Block
Pin 6 <----> K-bus high Connector Bloc
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14-10-2018, 19:07 PM,
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RE: cas / cluster bench setup
diagrams         nod


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15-10-2018, 02:46 AM,
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RE: cas / cluster bench setup
thank you for the help. i looked at diagram and think i got it all connected correctly, but when i connect my power source that i have set at 12v, when i power on it drops down to 6v and nothing happens.
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15-10-2018, 12:21 PM,
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RE: cas / cluster bench setup
How many Amperes your power supply is capable of?

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15-10-2018, 12:21 PM,
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RE: cas / cluster bench setup
do you have big enugh Power suply ?
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